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The shorter UK carriers feature an upward-sloped ramp at the bow of the ship. Curved at its leading edge, a ski-jump ramp simultaneously launches aircraft upward and forward, enabling takeoffs with more weight and less end-speed than required for an unassisted horizontal launch aboard U.S. aircraft carrier
This is somewhat misleading.

it is only true in the case of the F-35B off of the QE versus the F-35B off of a US Wasp or America class LHD/LHA...which the US does not consider to be carriers.

A US carrier, with a catapult, will launch an F-35C with far more fuel and ordinance than the QE can launch with an F-35B off of the ski jump.

And precisely because of the catapult on the flat deck of the US Carrier.
 

FORBIN

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Even at full load F-35B have an inferior CR 830 km vs 1110 for the C, A 1080 we have now exact or almost numbers.
But FT can be really a good idea ...
Depsite this 830 km for the B is a excellent range for a STOVL fighter, AV-8B have only a CR of 550 km and for radar, weapons load no comparison.
 
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is making reasonable points, but before writing the last sentence (starting with "With the cost of borrowing at record lows, ..."), he should've visited
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FORBIN

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First views for the new Frigate, seems designated Type 31, 2 concepts

GB General Purpose Frigate Concepts.jpg

GB GPFF Type 31. An ‘enhanced' Al Shamikh-class corvette.jpg

BAE unveils General Purpose Frigate concepts

BAE Systems Naval Ships has lifted the lid on its initial thinking regarding the UK's projected General Purpose Frigate (GPFF) programme, revealing two export-derived concept designs positioned to address different points on the cost/capability curve.

Plans to acquire a new class of more affordable and potentially exportable light frigate were announced in November last year as part of the 2015 Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR15). While the new Type 26 Global Combat Ship - eight of which are now planned - will primarily support carrier task group operations and provide protection for the UK's strategic nuclear deterrent, the GPFF is to be rolled for a range of less high-tempo tasks.

While neither key user requirements nor an acquisition strategy have yet to be finalised for the GPFF project, there is already a growing expectation within industry that cost and programme constraints will condition the procurement of an essentially military off-the-shelf (MOTS) design solution. With uncertainty as to the balance of cost and capability required, BAE Systems has over the last six months worked up two different ship concepts - each an enlarged and modified version of a previously built MOTS export design - that map onto different ends of the requirements spectrum. In each case, the company has sought to retain as much as possible of the existing detailed design.

The first concept, known as Avenger, is a 111 m design that builds on the pedigree of the existing 90 m Amazonas-class/River-class Batch 2 (RCB2) offshore patrol vessel (OPV) and very much plots onto the lower end of the solution space. However, while the parent design is largely built to commercial standards, the Avenger embodies improved resilience and survivability; for example, being designed to more stringent naval standards and introducing greater redundancy in main and auxiliary machinery arrangements.

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FORBIN

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For replaced with Type 26, 13 Type 23, planned 8 Type 26 only coz very expensive so the need is for minimum 5 others medium frigates if UK can do enough cheaper more possible.

working horse(s) of 2050 Royal Navy??
Yes Type 26 build in 2020's and this new about for 2030 the first

I prefer the 2nd design the first " rustic " waiting more infos but we can envisaged a combattant of about 3/4000 t armed with a 76 mm gun or eventualy a 127 mm, 24 Sea Sceptor, 1 helo Wildcat, 1 Ciws ?, normaly hull sonar but definitely not a towed and i have some doubts for anti ships/land missiles in anyway max 8.

A less ambitious Frigate that the Type 26 more affordable but less capable and mainly versatile,
a Frigate of second rank.
 
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