CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

antiterror13 said:

PLEASE educate me (as I am not aware of these) what happenned
* After Qing navy made a "goodwill" visit to Japan
* After Admiral Zheng He voyage ... really the whole fleet disappeared from history? what happened after the voyage ?

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* Japan built up its navy and sunk the entire Chinese navy 甲午战争
* The next emperor was shocked by the cost of the trips and decided to dismantled the fleet

Jeff Head said:

Today and today's geo-poloitical and military environment are nothing comparable to the times of the Qing Navy.

As I said, the PLAN doing a good will cruise with those two carriers would send a strong, and a good message.

It may not happen quickly...but it ultimately will happen. If I were making the decisions, about the time the 2nd carrier reached IOC I would send the two carriers out for a 4-6 week cruise like that.

Of course, anyone can feel differently for whatever reason suits them.

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And give the people like Richard Fisher and others more ammunitions on “Chinese threats”? I doubt the Chinese leaders are that stupid

Jeff Head said:

Looks like some ne is getting ready to publish a new book! LOL!

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This one:

Liaoning is a good choice because it's labeled as a trainer.

Sending Liaoning to PACRIM will come in due time, maybe after Shandong is commissioned. Still 055 is too new for such kind of a thing, it's not typical Chinese.

Sending Liaoning to Indian ocean will take longer, maybe after 002 is commissioned.

In the foreseeable future China is not interested in global power projection. It would rather be a two ocean Navy. Though that doesn't mean Chinese ships will never sail in Atlantic, they already do. But showing off two carriers is too excessive unless you really want to be a global Navy. That would be a message to US Navy saying ”I want to be like you”. In certain aspects, yes. In many other aspects, no.

kwaigonegin said:

Maybe not 2 but if I'm in charge I would certainly send at least Liaoning on a global goodwill cruise. Certainly visit most of the major ports in Asia, Australia and PACRIM including Pearl.

Then follow not long after to the Indian Ocean including India, Pakistan, Mideast and the Med. If planned properly, they could certainly pull that off in 2019. By that time a proper CSG including all the air wing would've been firmly established.
It would be a good 'coming out' party for PLAN as they transitioned from green water to a true blue water navy

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Deino said:

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That is going to be nice...I will get one.

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Snowy time.

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The Day After the snow storm, frozen sea surface.

大寒后的第三天。

大寒 is a date. One of the 24 within the lunar calendar year. It is also the last one (24th) it means the year would end soon and new year's day (lunar calendar) would come soon. 大寒 2018 = Jan. 20th.

Come on CV-17, Type 001A (or Type 002 depending on who is talking)...PUT TO SEA!

We are all anxiously waiting.

It's time for two PLAN CVs to be splitting the waves!

It seems like the radar panels on the masts are still being worked on, the scaffolding is still on. Also the picture of the surrounding harbor in winter is surreal................ Goes to show how much of an advantage that China has over Russia when it comes to ice free deep water ports.