Trade War with China

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AssassinsMace

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They always say that the American small business owner is the backbone of American commerce and they're the ones more likely to be radically affected by US tariffs.

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If the decline in tourism is state directed like they want to believe, there would be no tourism. The decline is by choice.

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It's Karmageddon! Trump is a climate change denier. Trump starts a trade war with China. Farmers voted for Trump. China doesn't buy their share of US agricultural products and floods wipe out the rest.
 

localizer

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Meh I can't see China wanting to hold trillions dollars/US treasuries in the future if the US deficit's going to grow at $1 trillion a year and $2-$4 trillion if QE happens during the next recession. It might be best to never buy another US treasury note, buy up all the gold, brace for impact.

I'm personally diversifying my portfolio into foreign currencies and commodities in case of a dollar disaster.
 
Meh I can't see China wanting to hold trillions dollars/US treasuries in the future if the US deficit's going to grow at $1 trillion a year and $2-$4 trillion if QE happens during the next recession. It might be best to never buy another US treasury note, buy up all the gold, brace for impact.

I'm personally diversifying my portfolio into foreign currencies and commodities in case of a dollar disaster.

How about real estate? What's your opinion on buying real estate in the near future?
 

TK3600

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Is he fa lung gong member? It is a normal narrative.
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Organs from Chinese prisoners harvested: Insider account

The information war begins.

Important points about this news article:
-single source
-the source is in the middle of asylum seeking
-the source is interested to sell as ugly story as possible to have a successful asylum application
-The described events are non-realistic ( it is quite horroristic, but the described events smells improbable with a real person )



So, looks like a person from CIA did a shopping in the asylum seeking applications, and choose the worst stories for distribution to support the political target of the Capitol.
 

Red Moon

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There was a Japanese oil tanker attacked, so looks like Iran is sending a message to Japanese Prime Minister Abe (whilst he was visiting Iran) about implementing US sanctions.

After all, the US has unilaterally pulled out of the multilateral nuclear deal and is forcing everyone else to impose maximum pressure sanctions to stop Iran's oil exports. So Iran has nothing left to lose by shutting down the Persian Gulf to oil exports.

And given that the US has publicly accused Iran of the attacks and is releasing video footage, what are the chances of Bolton getting his war with Iran?

We can see how a trade war is becoming a real war with Iran.

If the US continues its uncompromising line, it makes sense for Europe and Japan to join with China, India and Russia to defy US sanctions and reinstate the deal that President Obama signed. Economically, this combination of countries is some 3x larger than the US, so they should be able to persuade the US to yield to common sense.

And in the aftermath, the US people (and US military) should be thankful that they aren't stuck in yet another military disaster in the Middle East for the next 20 years.
So I guess the worthy Guardian is working to buttress this bs propaganda emanating from the US.
 

Red Moon

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Iran state has zero reason to perform or support these attacks. Last thing in their interest is to incur the wrath of US or other countries and potentially have to endure even bigger sanctions or an attack on their country.

Now, some entities within Iran, but not supported by state, may indeed have their crazy reasons to do such a thing, flaming up hostilities. As pure vendetta or other irrational reasons.

But various entities in Saudi Arabia, Israel or US might also have reasons, more rational ones, to do such a thing. Again, not supported by their respective states.

If we're looking for motifs, like a detective, US has the most to gain with a war happening. They're not dependent on the Gulf Oil. Furthermore, as world's biggest oil producer, with oil from the gulf exports stopping while there's a war, the prices would skyrocket and their own oil would get more valuable. People would still need oil, so US would be able to sell oil to new clients. And even when gulf oil does get back on its feet, getting those old clients back, which now went to US, would not be a sure thing. US would get to keep at least some of those clients. China would be hit, as it imports a lot of oil through the gulf. Which in this era of war through economic means on China is another plus for the US.

US hawks would also get to fulfill their wish and damage or even try to depose the iranian regime, as well as their facilities that might be used for nuclear weapons research.

Even Saudi Arabia is not out of the question, as they also export their oil through other routes, not just through the gulf. They would also profit if their other colleagues from the gulf can't sell suddenly. That might make their position in the middle east even stronger.

I want to reiterate that none of these are likely state sponsored. In all likelihood it's more like rogue, though possibly influental, organisations plotting wars. Not unlike James Bond movies, however crazy that may sound.
But who has the capability to deliver the operatives and retrieve them without being seen, and in a wide area? I think you would need a submarine.
 
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