Trade War with China

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He’s doing the same thing many of them are doing to me on a daily basis.

Telling me “to go back to China” as if there is a “back” for people like me who has been here for 30 years ever since I came here as a kid.

Reminds me of the Vice doc on those Chinese railroad worker descendants who lived here for 100+ years and still treated like fresh off the boat.

I suggested that you treat your co-workers with respect and become a team player, and lose your condescending "overlord" attitude toward your customer the farmer, (yes, he is paying your salary, and buying your very expensive bean seed), you put down your co-workers, and those who were laid off as "conservatives who like Trump", (implying that they got what they deserved in your mind).....

I suggested that you build a life here, find a nice girl and start a family,,, or you could always go back to China? as you seem to suggest that is some sort of nirvana? and who am I to suggest you should miss out on that "paradise on earth"???
 

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Yeah, I experienced that as well when I was in US & UK. In the US, I was taken aback when someone in a starbucks used the term "Go the f**k back to Saudi, Sand Ni**er" while I was standing in the line waiting my turn to order a coffee. I didn't have the time, or the brain cells to waste on someone with an IQ of 0, so I left. I'm not even Saudi, I am from Pakistan. In the UK, it was weird, because at the time I didn't even know the slur the person used, was racist. This one was at the subway station, waiting on the platform, and the dude pushed me to get on the train. Remarked as he went past me, "fu**in Paki." It's only when someone on the platform told me that it's a racist term for anyone South Asian, did I realize what that meant.

I personally don't care either way about racism, simply because it is done by those who don't have an iota of intellect, and who definitely have some major insecurities about themselves or where they're from. Racism is used to compensate for those shortcomings.

Actually you do care, we all care about how about people feel about us, sadly you have been hurt by ignorant people verbalizing that hatred, and wounding us, but deep in our souls, in our heart of hearts, we all have a "black heart" of "judgement" against others, its human nature..... I have those feelings, likely you do as well?? sorrowful isn't it? that when we look in the mirror.... there's a hateful, angry man staring back at us

I'm a Christian, a very poor reflection on my Loving Master, I'm very sorry that someone hurt you for no reason, very sorry indeed,,, maybe this makes me weak in your eyes, and I am weak, and flawed, but I will try show you the respect you deserve as a man......
 

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First off, you could post your handful of beans, beside the handful of beans Master Jura posted,,, your handful of beans contains splits, green immature beans, which will not store well, and a very high percentage of debris, clearly an inferior product, and those are some small beans there.... cheerio!

Why so insecure, Brat? You're hatin' on Brazilian beans like Burger King hates on MacDonalds LOL. Chinese people don't have a problem eating Brazilian beans and paying a premium for them, and that's none of anybody else's business. Just mind your own business by tending to your beans and trying to sell them to whomever still wants to buy them. If you're lucky, maybe China will still buy a small fraction of what it used to buy. Attacking Brazil because you feel threatened by them is not going to make your own sales better. When's the last time you were persuaded by an angry salesman?
 
Yeah, I experienced that as well when I was in US & UK. In the US, I was taken aback when someone in a starbucks used the term "Go the f**k back to Saudi, Sand Ni**er" while I was standing in the line waiting my turn to order a coffee. I didn't have the time, or the brain cells to waste on someone with an IQ of 0, so I left. I'm not even Saudi, I am from Pakistan. In the UK, it was weird, because at the time I didn't even know the slur the person used, was racist. This one was at the subway station, waiting on the platform, and the dude pushed me to get on the train. Remarked as he went past me, "fu**in Paki." It's only when someone on the platform told me that it's a racist term for anyone South Asian, did I realize what that meant.

I personally don't care either way about racism, simply because it is done by those who don't have an iota of intellect, and who definitely have some major insecurities about themselves or where they're from. Racism is used to compensate for those shortcomings.

Sure there are hopeless cases of hatred and prejudice but microaggressions such as those you cited are not it. May I suggest compassion, circumspection, and action to take on whatever circumstances, including deliberate exploitation, are fostering such attitudes.
 
First off, you could post your handful of beans, beside the handful of beans Master Jura posted,,, your handful of beans contains splits, green immature beans, which will not store well, and a very high percentage of debris, clearly an inferior product, and those are some small beans there.... cheerio!

Good for your god given gift to see a picture that can make you happy regardless on how the market actually value soybeans. Really happy for you,


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Protein plight: Brazil steals U.S. soybean share in China
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. soybean growers are losing market share in the all-important China market because the race to grow higher-yielding crops has robbed their most prized nutrient: protein.


Declining protein levels make soybeans less valuable to the $400 billion industry that produces feed for cattle, pigs, chickens and fish. And the problem is a key factor driving soybean buyers from the U.S. to Brazil, where warmer weather helps offset the impact of higher crop yields on protein levels.
 
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now I read
Chicago soybean futures rebound on technical buying, weather concerns
Xinhua| 2019-01-12 06:04:12
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As of yesterday, Soybean Futures have rebounded due to bad weather in Argentina and Brazil, so you see growing Soybeans is dicey everywhere, and that handful of Brazilian soybeans illustrates exactly what I've been sayiny. Farmers are farmers, and we struggle against every different kind of adversity, the truth is, soybeans are just now entering the harvest in Brazil, where there is warmer weather.... the truth is the market needs soybeans year round, and US beans store much better with far less degradation than beans from less sophisticated producers...

but you won't hear any of that here on SDF, will you?
 

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Good for your god given gift to see a picture that can make you happy regardless on how the market actually value soybeans. Really happy for you,


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Protein plight: Brazil steals U.S. soybean share in China
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. soybean growers are losing market share in the all-important China market because the race to grow higher-yielding crops has robbed their most prized nutrient: protein.


Declining protein levels make soybeans less valuable to the $400 billion industry that produces feed for cattle, pigs, chickens and fish. And the problem is a key factor driving soybean buyers from the U.S. to Brazil, where warmer weather helps offset the impact of higher crop yields on protein levels.

If you knew anything about animal husbandry, you would realize that animals, like people require roughage and bulk in their diets for good health,,, those much smaller, marginally higher protein beans are priced at a significant premium... the truth is the market dictates what you are looking for in a soybean...

ask our friend localizer, he's the seed bean expert, and yet the company he works for is not trying to increase protein production in their seed beans, but working to increase yield per acre, disease resistance, and a hardier bean plant, that tolerates less water and more difficult growing conditions?

The Brazilians and Argentinians are planting the same seed beans, but due to less than optimum growing conditions are producing fewer, smaller beans from the same seed,,, their protein may well be marginally higher, but as that handful of South American beans illustrates, when held up against the handful of American beans in Jura's post, you're buying an inferior product that is less mature, and will not tolerate sipping and storage nearly as well...

So localizer, as a crop scientist, perhaps you can explain why your company is working to produce a hardier seed product, that is more disease resistant, and tolerant of difficult growing conditions, as opposed to a higher protein product at harvest....

as a grower, I am very interested in your personal and honest opinion, I'm sure the guys would love to hear that as well???
 
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Why so insecure, Brat? You're hatin' on Brazilian beans like Burger King hates on MacDonalds LOL. Chinese people don't have a problem eating Brazilian beans and paying a premium for them, and that's none of anybody else's business. Just mind your own business by tending to your beans and trying to sell them to whomever still wants to buy them. If you're lucky, maybe China will still buy a small fraction of what it used to buy. Attacking Brazil because you feel threatened by them is not going to make your own sales better. When's the last time you were persuaded by an angry salesman?

Byron, you've honestly never heard me put down another farmer have you, that farmer is proud of his beans, and he should be... farming is a hell of a lot of hard work! the profit margin is slim, so NO I'm not the hater here Bub, you're the one "putting me down" because I know a handful of good beans, from a handful of great beans.....

So build all the strawmen you want, you really don't know jack about farming, and even less about soybeans.. you seem to need to put others down to make yourself feel better, and to "judge", sad .... but NO, anyone here who know's me will tell you, I'm NOT a hater... God Bless those Brazilian Farmer's!
 
If you knew anything about animal husbandry, you would realize that animals, like people require roughage and bulk in their diets for good health,,, those much smaller, marginally higher protein beans are priced at a significant premium... the truth is the market dictates what you are looking for in a soybean...

ask our friend localizer, he's the seed bean expert, and yet the company he works for is not trying to increase protein production in their seed beans, but working to increase yield per acre, disease resistance, and a hardier bean plant, that tolerates less water and more difficult growing conditions?

The Brazilians and Argentinians are planting the same seed beans, but due to less than optimum growing conditions are producing fewer, smaller beans from the same seed,,, their protein may well be marginally higher, but as that handful of South American beans illustrates, when held up against the handful of American beans in Jura's post, you're buying an inferior product that is less mature, and will not tolerate sipping and storage nearly as well...

So localizer, as a crop scientist, perhaps you can explain why your company is working to produce a hardier seed product, that is more disease resistant, and tolerant of difficult growing conditions, as opposed to a higher protein product at harvest....

as a grower, I am very interested in your personal and honest opinion, I'm sure the guys would love to hear that as well???

Guess you should thank localizer for making your beans conveniently easy to store as required nowadays.
 

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Guess you should thank localizer for making your beans conveniently easy to store as required nowadays.

You're absolutely right, those beautiful seed beans are amazing,,, you can even buy them "pre treated" to resist rodents, insects, and with fungicide, herbicide resistant, very tolerant of difficult growing challenges, and early maturing for much less drama.... so yes thank you localizer.

Grower's have a great many challenges, from storing their seed beans, to tillage, herbicides to assure a clean field, (there were some weed seeds and residue in that handful of goodies), mold and rot resistant, pods need to dry and allow the beans to "fall out" so the dried bean plant goes out the back of the harvester

a whole bean, with an intact outer shell stores very well if harvested at the proper "moisture levels", "too dry" and your beans are gonna split, if you harvest wet and overdry them with heat, your beans are gonna split, so there are hazards at every step...

but a handful of beautiful clean beans are a sight to behold, just look at the picture that Jura posted...

another thing that seed companies are working hard on is to increase the number of beans in a pod, used to be only 3 beans, now 4 beans and even 5 beans per pod are possible... good genetics makes a better crop....

still lots of challenges with growing conditions and soils, but lots better than it used to be.....
 
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