(zeppelin) balon with awacs / ecw / bvr missile is possible ?

broadsword

Brigadier
Launch of weapons form such a platform would be problematic the recoil would sent it floating in the wrong direction, operating as a surveillance and ECW platform is very reasonable, already the US boarder partol uses such platforms as does the US military.

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Many air launched missiles are designed to fire after dropping free from pylons, so recoil is not an issue. But isn't it a huge sitting duck?
 

luhai

Banned Idiot
Also the large one is difficult to control. Remember most large Zeppelin operated by the US navy all crashed by itself. (USS Shenandoah, USS Akron and USS Macon). USS Macon is interesting as it's an air-ship, aircraft carrier...
 

delft

Brigadier
Also the large one is difficult to control. Remember most large Zeppelin operated by the US navy all crashed by itself. (USS Shenandoah, USS Akron and USS Macon). USS Macon is interesting as it's an air-ship, aircraft carrier...
So was USS Akron. They were sisters, built in the large airship dock in Akron in which we have also seen many other, smaller, airships, by the Goodyear-Zeppelin company.
 

joshuatree

Captain
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i wonder if the concept will work... yes zeppelin will be sitting duck, but at a relative peacetime this will reduce maintainance and fuel cost with equal capability... right ?

is there something else i forgot ?

Would be useful in monitoring shipping lanes where piracy is rampant. The loitering capability would be extremely advantageous.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Even Dropping the ordinance would cause issues, The whole damned thing would suddenly start climbing. An unmanned surveillance system would be best. It can loiter for a long time it's non metallic hull is naturally stealthy, it's damned quiet and slow as hell well still being very very efficient.
 

Igor

Banned Idiot
So to solve the limited ordinance issue due to mass, why not just make the airship 10x larger?
It's composed of relatively cheap materials.
 

blacklist

Junior Member
Also the large one is difficult to control. Remember most large Zeppelin operated by the US navy all crashed by itself. (USS Shenandoah, USS Akron and USS Macon). USS Macon is interesting as it's an air-ship, aircraft carrier...

i think storm or high wind would be their biggest threat.

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So to solve the limited ordinance issue due to mass, why not just make the airship 10x larger?
It's composed of relatively cheap materials.

so when the heavy ordenance was released. the ballon will go up faster ?
i agree if the ballon was unmanned anyway and can automatically return. not sure how cheap they were compared to COIN aircraft, or any other mean of delivering the ordenance though ?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Coin Aircraft demand speed too react too threats as they occur A airship would simply sit there if it moved counter attacks would be easy in terms of aiming hard in terms of actual damage.
The only arms would have too be bombs or missiles but the release of such would demand countering the basic fact that the mass has changed.
 

blacklist

Junior Member
Coin Aircraft demand speed too react too threats as they occur A airship would simply sit there if it moved counter attacks would be easy in terms of aiming hard in terms of actual damage.
The only arms would have too be bombs or missiles but the release of such would demand countering the basic fact that the mass has changed.

yes, but there are some situation in war which casualty is inevitable, wouldnt the loss of unmanned ballon is better and cheaper than any manned aircraft ?
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
That's why they have cruise missiles.
the stealth ability's of a balloon are none when fighting an insurgency as they tend too have no radar but depend on there eyes and communication like cell phones,
now here is a huge lumbering slow moving coin aircraft. the enemy is just going too go too ground when they see it coming you need a platform that can move in and respond as the situation is developing not take photos from over head well after the baddies are long gone.
The platform is just too big too slow and too troubled. A coin aircraft needs the legs too stay on station yes need the eyes too see trouble but all so the fury too bank and move form station too trouble bay down the hate and get out. it needs the bad guys not too see it until it brings the rain. A balloon is too big and two slow.
 
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