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AssassinsMace

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Too add to Popeye's post in the other thread...

The group of hackers known as Anonymous has vowed to 'destroy' Facebook on November 5, the night which commemorates Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot.

The 'hacktivists', infamous for meddling with the American government and for their support for WikiLeaks, have announced that they will focus on bringing down the social networking site because of its privacy policy.

Facebook was started in 2004 and has more than 750 million users worldwide. Its 27-year-old CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, is thought to be worth £8.3 billion ($13.5 billion) according to Forbes.

And while its popularity appears to be increasing, many questions remain over privacy issues - there are fears that the information uploaded by users will be passed on to other sources

Anonymous, whose members have been known to wear Guy Fawkes hats - copying the film V for Vendetta - when they appear in public, has launched what it calls 'Operation Facebook'.

It has pledged to bring down the California-based company on November 5 - Bonfire Night - which commemorates the day in 1605 when Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament.

Anonymous said that this November 5 'will go down in history. It added: 'One day you will look back on this and realise what we have done here is right, you will thank the rulers of the internet, we are not harming you but saving you.

'The riots are under way. It is not a battle over the future of privacy and publicity. It is a battle for choice and informed consent.'

Last month the group created a Twitter account and uploaded a YouTube video, called 'Message from Anonymous: Operation Facebook, Nov 5 2011', to highlight its intentions - and has urged those willing to rise up against Facebook to join it.

The chilling video, a two-minute warning and explanation using a computerised voice, begins: 'Attention citizens of the world ... Your medium of communication you all so dearly adore will be destroyed.

'If you are a willing hacktivist or a guy who just wants to protect the freedom of information then join the cause and kill Facebook for the sake of your own privacy.

'Facebook has been selling information to government agencies and giving clandestine access to information security firms so that they can spy on people from all around the world.'

The message continues: 'Everything you do on Facebook stays on Facebook regardless of your "privacy" settings, and deleting your account is impossible.

'Even if you "delete" your account, all your personal info stays on Facebook and can be recovered at any time.

'Facebook knows more about you than your family. You cannot hide from the reality in which you, the people of the internet, live in.

'People are being raped, tickled, molested, and confused into doing things where they don't understand the consequences.

Facebook keeps saying that it gives users choices, but that is completely false. It gives users the illusion of and hides the details away from them "for their own good" while they then make millions off of you.'

The video concludes: 'This is our world now. We exist without nationality, without religious bias ... We have the right to not live as slaves.

'We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.'

However, Eugene Kaspersky, co-founder and CEO of Kaspersky Lab and a security expert, poured scorn on the threat and used Twitter to say: 'The news around #Anonymous to attack #Facebook on Nov 5 most probably is fake.'

A comment from Facebook was not forthcoming when MailOnline contacted the press office.

Read more: Anonymous threaten to close down Facebook on November 5 | Mail Online

Anonymous has hit the Bay Area Rapid Transit system in the San Francisco/Bay Area. It was over the shooting death of an apparently mentally ill man by BART police around the beginning of July. A protest later occurred that stopped trains from travelling. Another protest was scheduled recently but BART turned off cell phone relays that some said muted the protest which apparently enraged "anonymous." He was said to have hacked into their systems today.

Facebook and now a regional transit system? Sounds like "anonymous" lives in the San Francisco Bay Area. I wonder if this will end up being his mistake.
 

Finn McCool

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Having spent some time in Anonymous chat rooms and being somewhat familiar with the culture, I can tell you this: there is no centralized "Anonymous HQ". There are different levels of involvement in Anonymous, and there are people who can get the ball rolling on operations and issue public statements, etc. But the way its structured means that any small group of like minded people (or even one person) can do some form of cyber disobedience or attack and then claim responsibility in the name of "Anonymous". So there are some people on Anonymous organizing sites who are very skilled hackers and some who are not. And there is no central system for command and control. People can propose a target and other "Anons" can volunteer to go after that target. Also Anonymous is very prone towards jokes pranks, and sarcastic self praise. So for both those reasons its hard to say whether this is a true, concerted Anonymous hacking operation with broad support by many Anons (such as the hacks of Mastercard, etc. in support of Wikileaks) or just a couple 15 year olds who can't even really hack but go on Anon chat rooms who decided to start telling people that they "represent Anonymous" and "we're gonna attack Facebook". I'd lean towards the latter though; "destroying" Facebook doesn't seem like the sort of thing most of the more mature, skilled Anons would be interested in.
 

LesAdieux

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Pakistan Lets China See US Helicopter

Pakistan allowed Chinese military engineers to photograph and take samples from the top secret stealth helicopter that U.S. special forces left behind when they killed Osama bin Laden, the Financial Times has learnt.

The action is the latest incident to underscore the increasingly complicated relationship and lack of trust between Islamabad and Washington following the raid.

"The U.S. now has information that Pakistan, particularly the ISI, gave access to the Chinese military to the downed helicopter in Abbottabad," said one person in intelligence circles, referring to the Pakistani spy agency. The Chinese engineers were allowed to survey the wreckage and take photographs of it, as well as take samples of the special "stealth" skin that allowed the American team to enter Pakistan undetected by radar, he said.

President Barack Obama's national security council had been discussing this incident and trying to decide how to respond. A senior official said the situation “doesn't make us happy”, but that the administration had little recourse.

As Navy Seals raided Bin Laden's compound in the military city of Abbottabad, just outside Islamabad, in May, one of their modified Black Hawk helicopters crashed into the wall of the compound, rendering it inoperable.

The Seals used a hammer to smash the instruments then rigged up explosives to detonate it in an effort to keep classified military technology secret, but the tail section landed outside the compound wall and remained intact. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, went to Pakistan two weeks after the raid to secure the tail's return.

At the time, Pakistani officials, who were livid that the U.S. carried out the raid without informing Islamabad first, hinted that the Chinese were interested in looking at the wreckage, and photographs of the tail circulated on the internet. But people close to the White House and the Central Intelligence Agency have told the FT that the Chinese were in fact given access to the helicopter.

"We had explicitly asked the Pakistanis in the immediate aftermath of the raid not to let anyone have access to the damaged remains of the helicopter," said the person close to the CIA.

Senior U.S. officials confronted General Ashfaq Kayani, head of the Pakistan military, about this but he flatly denied it, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting. A senior Pakistani official also denied it to the FT. China declined to comment, as did the White House and CIA.

Beijing has a strong military relationship with Islamabad and is a major supplier of weapons to the Pakistani military.

"The Chinese would have enormous interest in this newfangled technology," said the person involved in confronting the Pakistanis. "They [Seals] did not blow the thing up for no reason," he said.

However, the senior government official said it was “hard to say” how useful the information would have been. “Most of the helicopter was virtually destroyed during the operation,” he said.
 

Red___Sword

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What is the difference between this thread, and another "Breaking news" thread?

This one being more "rumor" and "hearsay", while the other one being more "debating" (people did argue a lot)?
 

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Modifying ships, even as small as patrol boats, can get problematic. Imagine upgrading and modifying the Ex-Varyag.


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Coast Guard struggling to update its aging fleet
Congress balks at spending after cost overruns

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U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert J. Papp Jr., center, gets a tour of the new Coast Guard National Security Cutter Stratton in Pascagoula, Miss. By ALICIA A. CALDWELL

updated 2 hours 30 minutes ago 2011-08-21T13:48:26
Print Font: +-PASCAGOULA, Miss. — Nearly a decade into a 25-year, $24.2 billion overhaul intended to add more than 250 vessels to its aging fleet, the Coast Guard has two new ships to show after spending $7 billion-plus.

Now it's facing an uphill battle persuading a budget-conscious Congress to keep pouring money into a project plagued by management problems and cost overruns.

"Congress wants to work with the Coast Guard to meet their needs for its myriad missions, but will not simply supply a blank check," said GOP Rep. Frank LoBiondo of New Jersey, chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure subcommittee that oversees the Coast Guard.

By now the Coast Guard was supposed to have at least eight new ships — four 418-foot national security cutters and four 154-foot cutters — either in the water or about to be delivered. Instead it has only two of the largest ships already in use, with two ships more on the way.

LoBiondo and others in Congress, including Rep. Bennie Thompson, the top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee, repeatedly have questioned the progress and scope of the fleet overhaul.

Government auditors have concluded that the Coast Guard still doesn't know the answers to those questions.

The two completed boats and the two more under production have cost about $2 billion. Much of the remaining $5 billion has been spent on new contracts for at least 10 more ships and improvements to more than two dozen older ships. The Coast Guard also used some of the money to buy and upgrade aircraft, though boats and ships were the program's primary focus.

.The modernization effort that began in earnest in 2002 was designed to replace ships from World War II, Korea and Vietnam. But within the first year, as Congress started to dole out billions of dollars for new-found homeland security concerns after the Sept. 11 attacks, Coast Guard officials realized their blueprint wasn't exactly what was needed.

"I'll be the first to admit, we weren't prepared to start spending this money and supervising a project this big," said Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert Papp.

Budget-cutting in the 1990s had left the service with few experts on buying new ships and other equipment. So the Coast Guard turned the project over to a joint venture between Northrup Grumman and Lockheed Martin. Huntington Ingalls Industries, a Northrup Grumman spin-off that's continuing to build Coast Guard ships, referred all questions about the program to the Coast Guard.

Keith Little, a Lockheed spokesman, said the company is fulfilling existing contracts and has completed upgrades for several aircraft, along with building several others.

.."We continue to meet delivery and performance milestones for existing Coast Guard contracts and are prepared to continue supporting the U.S. Coast Guard in its critical national security mission," said Little, whose company's work has focused on aircraft and technology.

The program, known as Deepwater, appeared in trouble almost from the beginning. Early government audits criticized Coast Guard officials for a lack of oversight, which invariably led to early delays and cost increases.

"In essence the contractors were overseeing themselves," said Thompson, D-Miss.

Hurricanes, including Katrina in 2005, led to delays at the Pascagoula, Miss., shipyard where many new ships are being built.

In the early 2000s, the Coast Guard awarded a contract to Bollinger Shipyards Inc. to convert its 110-foot patrol boats to 123-foot vessels. Starting with eight ships, the contractor attached new steel to extend the hulls of the ships by 13 feet. The results were disastrous.

"What we found out was when you put new steel on old steel, it flexes," Papp said. "Those patrol boats were unusable afterward and there was a chance of a catastrophic failure."
Last month the Justice Department sued Bollinger Shipyards, accusing the Lockport, La., company of "making material false statements to the Coast Guard" about the hull strength of the converted ships.

In a written statement, Bollinger said it has "been open and cooperative with the government, and we remain committed to providing the government all necessary information and assistance to bring this matter to a close." The statement added that the company was prepared to "defend our good name aggressively in a court of law."

.The upgrades in question cost about $95 million and the eight boats had to be decommissioned.
The Coast Guard took over management of the Deepwater program in 2007. By then the new estimated price had risen from $17 billion to $24.2 billion.

Cmdr. Matthew Lake, who works in the Coast Guard's Office of Budget and Programs, insists the Coast Guard has "learned from those earlier challenges and we've made significant improvements."

The most recent Government Accountability Office report, published in July, concluded that while the Coast Guard has done a better job with oversight, the "$24.2 billion program as envisioned in 2007 is no longer feasible, in terms of cost and schedule."

The Coast Guard must address the weaknesses that auditors identified if the program is to move ahead, Thompson said. "I think to come to Congress with an incomplete program will only push the improvements required that much father back," he said.

LoBiondo said the Coast Guard needs to provide Congress with an accurate estimate and start meeting "long-promised increased operational capabilities."

Papp said the criticism was fair, but wishes auditors and legislators would focus more on what's been accomplished.
Last month's report showed "where we were. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm just trying to explain where we are."
He said the Coast Guard is in a position of spending more money than budgeted for expensive and time-consuming repairs on older ships.
"It's cost us way more to keep (older ships) operational than it should," Papp said. "We are far surpassing the amount that we get in our budget to do routine maintenance on these ships, so that comes at the expense of doing maintenance to our newer ships."
Capt. Charles Cashin, who will be the first commanding officer of the Coast Guard's newest 418-foot cutter, the Stratton, said that "if you look at the broad picture, it's easy to see we aren't able to get the same number of ships under way as we used to two, four, five, 10 years ago."
As Papp recently toured the Stratton at a shipyard in Pascagoula, he said he envisions fully modern ships built in this century that don't require constant heavy maintenance. But he said he knows significant roadblocks remain.
"Clearly the Coast Guard needs to have its fleet modernized, but we have to have ... to know exactly the work to be performed and how much it is scheduled to cost," Thompson said.
 
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bladerunner

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A little bit of Karma with the father spying for China and the son against

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Video footage showing a Chinese general talking about sensitive spy cases has appeared on the internet.

In the video, Maj Gen Jin Yinan complains that there are many Communist Party members who have "turned rotten" and sold secrets to foreign countries.

China has not commented on the video, which is an embarrassing incident for a country that does not like to talk about spy cases.

It shows Gen Jin giving a lecture at Beijing's National Defence University.

With a tea cup by his side, the senior officer lifts the lid on a number of recent spy cases.

He talks about a Chinese ambassador in Seoul who passed on sensitive material to the South Koreans.

The authorities caught the ambassador but charged him with economic crimes because they were too embarrassed to reveal his real wrong-doing, says Gen Jin.

He goes on to talk about another senior official who spied - just as his father had done a generation before - although the father had spied for the Communists, not against them.

The audience were students at the university and the lecture was apparently given as a warning to discourage traitors.

China's leaders do not usually talk about spy cases, and they will probably be furious these details have now leaked out.
 
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Video footage showing a Chinese general talking about sensitive spy cases has appeared on the internet.

In the video, Maj Gen Jin Yinan complains that there are many Communist Party members who have "turned rotten" and sold secrets to foreign countries.

China has not commented on the video, which is an embarrassing incident for a country that does not like to talk about spy cases.

It shows Gen Jin giving a lecture at Beijing's National Defence University.

With a tea cup by his side, the senior officer lifts the lid on a number of recent spy cases.

He talks about a Chinese ambassador in Seoul who passed on sensitive material to the South Koreans.

The authorities caught the ambassador but charged him with economic crimes because they were too embarrassed to reveal his real wrong-doing, says Gen Jin.

He goes on to talk about another senior official who spied - just as his father had done a generation before - although the father had spied for the Communists, not against them.

The audience were students at the university and the lecture was apparently given as a warning to discourage traitors.

China's leaders do not usually talk about spy cases, and they will probably be furious these details have now leaked out.

Honestly, I don't expect PRC to be the "only" state in the world to have 0 record of traitors, spies, and esponiage cases going against them successfully. It won't make sense for a country with 1.3 billion people, and we've heard enough of corruption within the party already. The odds are there, there will definitely be someone out there who doesn't mind making extra side cash or something.
 

bd popeye

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This is horrible.

My condolences to the families of the victims of this murderous rampage.

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CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) — The burst of bullets came suddenly in Nevada's capital.

Just before 9 a.m., the gunman stepped onto an IHOP parking lot from his blue minivan with a yellow "Support Our Troops" sticker on it. He opened fire, then continued into the restaurant and marched resolutely toward a table of uniformed National Guard members before shooting each one of them, and fatally wounding three of them, authorities said.

Eduardo Sencion would kill four people and wound seven others in all before shooting himself in the head in front of a bustling business complex in an unexplained display of violence Tuesday. One of the wounded, a woman and National Guard member, would later die at an area hospital.

The breakfast-time massacre sent tremors of fear through Carson City at a time when lawmakers were not in session. In the immediate confusion after the shooting, officials prepared for a citywide assault.

A motive remained unknown late Tuesday, as lawmakers, business owners and law enforcement officials in this close-knit, government-driven city of 50,000 struggled to understand what drove Sencion to turn an AK-47 assault rifle on his hometown.

Authorities are investigating whether the military members were targeted. Carson City Sheriff Kenny Furlong told The Associated Press on Tuesday night that authorities, at that point, did not think the shooter set out to target people in military.

"But of course, it's clearly a heavy, heavy concern from here," he added.

Sencion shot each of the five Nevada National Guard troops sitting together at the back of the restaurant. Another woman was shot and killed.

Family members told investigators that Sencion, 32, was mentally troubled, but he did not have a criminal history. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital hours after the mass shooting.

"The sheriff may never know the motive," Nevada Highway Patrol spokesman Chuck Allen said.

The shooting started just before 9 a.m. roughly two miles from the state Capitol in Carson City.

Sencion stepped out of the minivan and immediately shot a woman near a motorcycle before charging into the chain restaurant. Witnesses said he had unloaded a magazine when he was still less than 12 feet from his car.

The gunfire prompted Ralph Swagler, the owner of a nearby barbecue restaurant, to grab his weapon. But when Sencion started toward him, Swagler backed away.

"I wish I had shot at him when he was going in the IHOP," said Swagler, who owns Locals BBQ & Grill. "But when he came at me, when somebody is pointing an automatic weapon at you — you can't believe the firepower, the kind of rounds coming out of that weapon."

Sencion struck each of the Guard members in the restaurant in what witnesses described as a seemingly intentional attack. He then exited the restaurant and fired shots toward the barbecue restaurant, shattering the windows. He also fired toward an H&R Block and a casino across the street.

Sencion had shot himself and was lying injured in the parking lot by the time officers arrived. A crowd of reporters and onlookers could see a body on the ground, covered with a white sheet except for the feet, clad in tan boots.

Fran Hunter is a frequent IHOP customer who works in a pet supply store next door but made a last second decision Tuesday to eat at the casino coffee shop across the street.

"It turned out to be a good decision," she told the AP. "If you know the IHOP, they had to be sitting ducks with that long narrow aisle — if they were at those tables with no way to get out."

Servicemen flocked to a Reno hospital after the shooting, nervously waiting for word on those killed and hurt.

"It's hard to believe something like this would happen to really good people," said Spc. Lee Amato, 33, a Nevada Army National Guard member. "It's like a hole, something taken away. It's mind-boggling and hard to comprehend."

Sgt. 1st class Cameron Anderson, 31, of Reno, was tasked with driving the Guard's chaplain to the hospital.

"You go a whole tour in Afghanistan and no one is shot," Anderson said. "And you go to IHOP and several are shot. It's a shock."

The names of the victims, including the three Guard members — a woman and two men — who were killed, were not immediately released.

Officials were analyzing the assault rifle to determine whether it is automatic or semi-automatic. Sencion left two more guns in the van — another rifle and a pistol, authorities said. Furlong said law enforcement agencies would continue investigating as they conducted searches through the night, although he did not give further detail or say where.

The violent outburst rattled Nevada's capital city after the long Labor Day weekend when many officials, including Gov. Brian Sandoval, had left town. Carson City is also a jumping off point 30 miles south of Reno for travelers headed to Lake Tahoe or back to California across the Sierra.

Nevada officials initially feared the worst as news of the shooting spread. The state Capitol and Supreme Court buildings were briefly closed and extra security were sent to guard state and military buildings in northern Nevada to prevent further violence. The IHOP is several miles from the Guard's state headquarters complex.

Sandoval was in Las Vegas when the shooting occurred. He soon returned to the capital, where he was briefed by police and his security adviser.

"Everything is being done to ensure the public's safety," Sandoval said in a statement. He ordered flags to half-staff through Friday night in honor of the killed guardsmen.

Sencion was born in Mexico and had a valid U.S. passport. He worked at a family business in South Lake Tahoe and had no known affiliations with anyone inside the restaurant, Furlong said. He was not in the military.

Sencion filed for bankruptcy protection in January 2009, listing more than $42,000 in outstanding debts for a car, several credit cards and some medical expenses. The case was discharged four months later.

A lawyer representing some of Sencion's family members called the shooting "an aberration of his character."

"He's a gentle, kind man who was very helpful to friends and family," Joe Laub told The Associated Press. "I couldn't venture to guess what would cause him to do something as horrible as this."

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Associated Press writers Michelle Rindels, Oskar Garcia, Ken Ritter and Cristina Silva in Las Vegas and Martin Griffith and Scott Sonner in Carson City contributed to this report.
 
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