What airplanes should China get/have?

popeye, everything is a copy, or at least a varient from something else. most of russias equipment were developed from german and western technology(particularly the engines like the bmw and rolls royce nene), but eveolved. same with china. copying is the base for future development.

FreeAsia2000 said:

China should acquire aircraft which are relevant to it's situation for instance
a land invasion of China is highly unlikely as is any other type of war between
China and any other major power.

Which leaves small scale dogfight/interception missions and of course the
evergreen issue of taiwan and when/if an invasion takes place.

America seems to have decided that the F-35 will be it's last manned aircraft
, I believe they're intending on having 1,400 after which we're into UAV
period

Thus China dosn't need to have large stocks of fighter aircraft, it needs small
stocks of high quality weapons so called assasins mace

China need to invest HEAVILY in naval warfare and space technologies

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In terms of UCAV technology, America is still at the begining. UCAV tech might be easy if you look at today's, combat remote control planes, but what America is really aiming for are UCAVs that dont need pilots, UCAVs that can think by themselves and that kind of technology is still a little far off.

MIGleader said:

popeye, everything is a copy, or at least a varient from something else. most of russias equipment were developed from german and western technology(particularly the engines like the bmw and rolls royce nene), but eveolved. same with china. copying is the base for future development.

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That is not true. Not everything is a copy. If you take a look at human history; both far in the past and more recently; it would not be hard for you to find countless examples of truly original technology. For example:
The Dreadnought
The Wright's Brother's plane
The First Jet
The First Rocket
The Nuclear Bomb

the dreadknoght is not so original. it was indeed basedon pre dreadnoght warships, but simply eveolved to a new extant

the first rocket? some wood and gun powder? just 2+2.

nuclear bomb...couldnt of been made without thousands of men, and uranium test labs, and particle acceleraters, and the machine that first split an atom

write bros plane...please, they stole the wing design from birds. it was a bycicle with wings.

first jet...heinkel he 280. the jet engine was not one mans idscovery, but many put together. the jet plane is merely a jet engine on an airframe

you have to really think about this...nothing exept aub atomic particles are original

Well, how about the wheel? Isn't that original? Or clothes? Well, I'm afraid we might incur the wraths of the moderators for going off-topic, so this will be the last comment I make on the issue.

renmin said:

In terms of UCAV technology, America is still at the begining. UCAV tech might be easy if you look at today's, combat remote control planes, but what America is really aiming for are UCAVs that dont need pilots, UCAVs that can think by themselves and that kind of technology is still a little far off.

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renmin I take your point but the question is what is the requirement in the
future...bombing targets ? in which case cruise missiles or the new russian manoeverable ICBM's are better than any aircraft and a UAV is irrelevant.

If it's air-superiority then most aircraft will be BVR anyway so a remotely
piloted UCAV is just as useful unless you believe stealth makes BVR irrelevant.

so many variables...

can the predator and global hawk U(C)AV's recon and attac autonomically or do they need to be remote controlled? i know that germany and the usa exchanged many uav's we get global hawk and predator and they get taifun and kzo wich work attac and recon autonomically
as far i know taifun is currently the only autonimic ucav wich detects enemy, classifies them and attacs it without being remote controlled, they are even linked with each other, a so battery of 3 taifun ucavs all choose a different target and they can attac the target at the same time, while they can also be used as simple recon uav's
germany already ordered 2000 of them and they are going to be licence produced for the us army (with a different name)

autonomic ucavs make it possible for a goverment to purchase thousends of them just with claiming they are kinda missiles or something like that, they dont need pilot and not necessary need remote control

germark, the global hawk and any of your german toys have no relavence to this thread. at least talk about chinese uavs.

chinas currently developing a new uav, the wu zhen 2000/9. it may have a sar radar and thermal imaging camera, and is powered by a turbo fan. it has soem uav stealth feature seen on us designs, and might have flown sometime this year. anything to add.

MIGleader said:

germark, the global hawk and any of your german toys have no relavence to this thread. at least talk about chinese uavs.

chinas currently developing a new uav, the wu zhen 2000/9. it may have a sar radar and thermal imaging camera, and is powered by a turbo fan. it has soem uav stealth feature seen on us designs, and might have flown sometime this year. anything to add.

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Yes, that UAV has similar characteristics to the global hawk. I dont know if it flew yet but I may be wrong. the Chinese are planing to fit the wu zhen 2000 with missiles.

renmin said:

Yes, that UAV has similar characteristics to the global hawk. I dont know if it flew yet but I may be wrong. the Chinese are planing to fit the wu zhen 2000 with missiles.

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yes from its shape, but what about the size ?

btw "stealth features" doesnt mean that it is "stealth"