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IDonT

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AssassinsMace said:
Still rewriting history. You still haven't shown me how China tried to take over the world when your maps only show the Far East. Also the Qing were Manchus not Chinese. Got another wrong like all your points.

What criminals did Westerners go after? Certainly not the dictators the West supported throughout your colonial and Cold War history. Dictators that did all the killing for you on top of your crimes.

Never said China didn't have criminals. Here you go again rewriting history. I said 90% of serial murderers are from the US. Learn to read!

Never saw a twelve year old marrying a 40 year old unless you're talking about the past royal class. But then European royalty are notorious for in-breeding and child sexual perversion. Shall we talk Rome also? Shall I point to Mormons who do those very things. You can make up all the stories you want but official figures show Westerners are the most prolific child molesters in the world.

You just keep drowning in your own hypocrisy. You keep pointing the finger and three are always pointing back at you. LOL!!!!

For a Westerner, you're sure are blind to your own crimes. Oops, sorry! All Westerners are blind. That's why you arrogantly judge the world with your hypocrisy. That's why everyone in the world sees you as the greatest threat to world peace today.

What does it say compared to China's 5000 year long history, the West's 400 year rape, pillage, and plunder of humanity in the name of white supremacy and domination of the world wins you the title of greatest criminals against humanity and nature that history will ever know? It says a lot. Look at this way... At least there's one thing no one will question your superiority above everyone else. LOL!!!!! :D
Read Pi Sigma's post it explains what I am trying to tell you. SInce you cannot read.

For the record. I am not a westener. My mother is CHinese my father is Filpino.
 

AssassinsMace

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It irks me to see that most of the Chinese here are in the West, being educated in the West, being fed in the West, being able to enjoy the freedom provided in the West, can constantly bashing the Western Government because of the freedom of speech, not like their own "proud" country the PRC. What's more than sad that most of the "US bashers" Chinese here seems to live in the United States, enjoying the life that the US provides them, but still they like to bite.

Typical Mainland Chinese, always biting the hands that feeds you. But still the US/West accepted you. Ironic isn't it?

Also the "white-supremacist" thing is getting old.




every religion had their own dark history, the history of Christianity in China shows that when the Nestorians first arrived in the Tang dynasty, they were persecuted by the Buddhist establishment. Later, when the Jesuits arrived in the late Ming and early Qing, they were again persecuted by the Buddhists (the Confucians were relatively OK with them). And the Jesuits were not intolerant - in fact, they were tolerant to a fault, even endorsing the Confucian teachings and condoning the practice of ancestral sacrifices. That is partly why quite a number of Chinese scholars converted. The Jesuit failure was due to a clash with the Franciscans (who wanted a stricter line on the ancestral rites), and the decision of the Pope to side with the latter and prohibit ancestral worship by Chinese Christians - a decision which offended the Qing Kangxi emperor.

Also, this historical example shows how it is impossible to generalize about Christianity, since there are different positions and groups even within Catholic Christianity, some more 'tolerant' than others.

Btw nice argument IDont :D
I don't know where you come from but apparently you're on US welfare. I'm not so no American is feeding me like his dog. So I don't need to treat anyone like they're my master.

Unlike you I've had family in the US all the way into the 1800s "enslaved" building the US's backbone, the railroads. So unlike you, I understand something about free speech and how a democracy works not your keep quiet and don't rock the fresh-off-the-boat philosophy. What does it say that you want to stifle criticism in a democracy? You don't sound like a person who doesn't cares about any kind of freedom or democracy. You don't own me, boy. Where would civil rights be without someone to point out the truth. You certainly wouldn't be in this country because your masters wouldn't have let you in the first place.

Did I say China never committed anything wrong? This started when the ill-informed IDont-know-anything said Western crimes were nothing to cry about in history. I pointed out that all the world literally feels the legacy of West as the only people to ever literally try to take over the world. He said China tried to take over the world and I asked him to prove it and he couldn't except to make figurative nonsense.

Don't really care about the Jesuits or Christians in China that you say were being oppressed. They're in China. They're there in the first place because they look at the Chinese as inferiors that need to be converted as servants for Europeans. They helped the European colonialists carve up China for their power-hungry agenda so they have no rights in China. They're collaborators.

So if your Chinese or Asian, shame on you because you bring that be quiet and don't do anything crap from Asia. YOu throw in the face of those that fought for you to have rights. If they weren't around to criticize and protest the majority, you'd be a slave in your master's house.

If you're caucasion... thanks for representing your history so well. Typical that you think you have the right to control my thoughts and keep the lid on the truth. If you don't like the "white supremacist," thing then don't perpetuate it and it won't be used. Simple enough?
 

Kingpin

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AssasinMace said:
If you're caucasion... thanks for representing your history so well. Typical that you think you have the right to control my thoughts and keep the lid on the truth.

Funny you keep on blaming whites for all your troubles, the thing is you only had the courage to bash them on the internet and not doing something about it out there on the street, guess that proves your mentallity really well. :)
Don't worry about voicing your opinion though. Why? Because minorities are allowed to bash whites without being called a "racist". Go to street of L.A and voice your opinion, it's relatively safe there.

AssasinMace said:
If you don't like the "white supremacist," thing then don't perpetuate it and it won't be used. Simple enough?
I wonder who brought that up?

AssasinMace said:
What does it say compared to China's 5000 year long history, the West's 400 year rape, pillage, and plunder of humanity in the name of white supremacy and domination of the world wins you the title of greatest criminals against humanity and nature that history will ever know? It says a lot. Look at this way... At least there's one thing no one will question your superiority above everyone else. LOL!!!!!
Check your post before making silly statements, kay? :)
 

MIGleader

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lets not get rascist. every country in the world has had a scared history. but its the past. looking at the last 100 years, the americans have not been better at the chinese at human rights.
china:
mao murders and arrests
cult revolution
tiannemen
long march
civil war
tibet issues

U.s
indian removal
jap internment
vietnam kiliings
civil rights era
letting nazis go
Bush(iraq, muslim prosecution,katrina...

both have had a pretty scarred history, but need to look at the future
 

AssassinsMace

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IDonT said:
Read Pi Sigma's post it explains what I am trying to tell you. SInce you cannot read.

For the record. I am not a westener. My mother is CHinese my father is Filpino.
Typical!

I'm not you so don't try to make me think like a robot with a master. I'm an individual unlike what philosophy you bring here off the boat. So don't criticize me for calling people out on the truth. I live what Americans tell everyone in the world to live by and that is the principles of freedom and democracy. Your problem is that you think freedom and democracy is a person that happens to be white from the US or Europe and I'm suppose to worship him or her as a god never to be criticized or called out on their wrongs or lies they perpetuate. Worshipping a mortal human being as a god is the worse and most primitive thing anyone can possibly do. Ask every WASP American that was disgusted that Japan or China worshipped their Emperors as living gods. But somehow they and you believe worshipping them is all right.

What I don't like are people who hide behind behind freedom and democracy and then violate those principles themselves and then criticize others for doing what they've done in vastly more cases worse acts. So if there are Americans that cry "freedom and democracy" then try to stifle free thought or tell people how to think, that's isn't freedom and democracy and don't deserve the high status of god as you have given them. If all of you want to worship people as gods and choose to be a lemming with no brain of your own not seeing the hypocrisy, then that's your choice. Don't be a totalitarian dictator and tell me I have to because you do.

I already know this is all flying over your head. Because a lot of you FOBs bring that scared shitless and don't criticize those in power philosophy here. Ironic that I can get accused of being un-American when criticizing those in power is anything but. Just because you're supposedly Chinese, it don't mean you're in the right or you're the puppet-dictator over me because you side with the hypocrisy of the those who hold power.

BTW, Westerners or white supremacists don't have to be white. If you supposedly believe and practice Western values, then you're a Westerner. If you believe in the superiority of whites over others, then you're a white supremacist.
 

Kingpin

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MIGleader said:
lets not get rascist. every country in the world has had a scared history. but its the past. looking at the last 100 years, the americans have not been better at the chinese at human rights.
china:
mao murders and arrests
cult revolution
tiannemen
long march
civil war
tibet issues

U.s
indian removal
jap internment
vietnam kiliings
civil rights era
letting nazis go
Bush(iraq, muslim prosecution,katrina...
You forgot slavery, one of the darkest hour of United States history.

But hey, The current richest celebrity in this world right now is Oprah Winfrey, while the second is Tiger Woods. ;)

MIGleader said:
both have had a pretty scarred history, but need to look at the future.
Concurred.
 

AssassinsMace

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Kingpin said:
Funny you keep on blaming whites for all your troubles, the thing is you only had the courage to bash them on the internet and not doing something about it out there on the street, guess that proves your mentallity really well. :)
Don't worry about voicing your opinion though. Why? Because minorities are allowed to bash whites without being called a "racist". Go to street of L.A and voice your opinion, it's relatively safe there.



I wonder who brought that up?



Check your post before making silly statements, kay? :)
Liars always see the truth as silly just like only a racist can see a non-white thinking for himself as crime.

I don't label calling you out on your lies about history blaming whites. It's called the truth. Too bad you can't handle it since where you come from it's all about lies. That's why you get so upset when the truth is injected into the situation. You're not use to it.
 
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FriedRiceNSpice

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This is very sad really, most Chinese like the US since their relations are not burdened by history as they are with some other countries.
But judging from its recent behaviour, the US seems to want to prevent others from surpassing it at all costs, even if the potential contenders like China are only following their natural course of development.
Well, the US did have imperialistic polcies toward Qing China and support Chian Kai-shek, as well as killing 200,000 Chinese in the Korean War.

And whats this talk about blacks and whites? Isn't that a little off-topic? The simple fact is that blacks tend to be more atlhletic, bigger, and stronger, but on average are slightly disadvantaged in the area of intelligence. This makes the majority of good athletes black, while the majority of sucessful lawyers and buisnessmen white.

And TIger woods is not black. He is about 1/4th black, 1/4th european, 1/4th pacific islander and 1/4 asian .
 

Kingpin

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
The simple fact is that blacks tend to be more atlhletic, bigger, and stronger, but on average are slightly disadvantaged in the area of intelligence.
Uh, you might want to change that stereotype.

AssasinMace said:
I'm sure that makes slavery all right then.
No it's not right, all of us already acknowledged it as a terrible mistake and are ashamed, and are willing to repent it. It's not perfect right now, but we're heading there. ;)

AssasinMace said:
Liars always see the truth as silly just like only a racist can see a non-white thinking for himself as crime.

I don't label calling you out on your lies about history blaming whites. It's called the truth. Too bad you can't handle it since where you come from it's all about lies. That's why you get so upset when the truth is injected into the situation. Your're not use to it.
Your "blame whiteys" whining for all your problem mentality never ceases to amaze me, and it's you who's keeping this racist stuff up you know.....But hey it's a free country. :D

This is a good read for you, instead of whining all the time, but do something called "effort",

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and here's one from the Associated Press,

By SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 29, 1:57 PM ET

NEW YORK - Mayor Michael Bloomberg quietly slipped away from City Hall one morning last week to meet with York Chan, the powerful community leader known as the "mayor of Chinatown." A day earlier, Chan sat down with Fernando Ferrer, the Democrat challenging Bloomberg in November.
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"Two candidates in 24 hours — that never happened before," Chan said during an interview in his office above bustling Mott Street in the heart of the Chinese neighborhood. "They used to ignore us."

A lot of things are happening for the first time in New York's Asian communities, where an explosion of new voters is thrusting the campaign trail into unfamiliar territory.

Until recently, candidates did not put much energy into wooing Asians, but that is changing. Asians as a group are becoming an influential force, joining the established blocs of black and Hispanic voters already crucial to winning office in New York City.

"The numbers of Asian-Americans on the voter rolls are increasing by leaps and bounds, and the actual turnout rates are increasing correspondingly, so ignore this group at your own peril," said John Liu, the only Asian on the 51-member City Council.

New York's Asians account for 11 percent of the city's 8 million people, compared with blacks' 26 percent and Hispanics' 28 percent. Asians are one of the city's fastest-growing minority groups: At nearly 900,000, their numbers have more than tripled since 1980, because of both immigration and a high birth rate.

Since the last mayoral election in 2001, 400,000 new voters have registered, including about 40,000 Chinese, according to an analysis by John Mollenkopf, director of the Center for Urban Research at the City University of New York Graduate Center.

There are about 14 million Asians nationwide — a population that expanded at a rate of 3.4 percent from 2003 to 2004, second only to the Hispanic boom, according to the
Census Bureau. The growth is certain to change the course of the political process for years to come, from local races to presidential campaigns.

The shift is already evident in the pages of New York's largest Chinese-language daily newspaper, which made history this summer with its first-ever political endorsement. Sing Tao Daily, which has a New York City circulation of more than 50,000, backed Bloomberg.

"Ten or 15 years ago, people in Chinatown were just interested in taking a picture with the politician. Now they want to explain their opinion, they want to exchange ideas and they also want to ask for something," said Sing Tao Daily's deputy general manager, Rick Ho. "Chinese nowadays, they're more involved with politics because the politics, they feel, are more involved in their life."

Ho said Bloomberg is the first mayor who appears to genuinely care about Chinatown, which has never served as much more than a backdrop for campaign lunches, fund-raisers and news conferences.

"Sometimes he just comes down and talks to a few people to understand what we need and find out what we know, and sometimes he even doesn't let the reporters know he's here. That means we have some real interaction," Ho said.

The newspaper may have considerable sway with its readership: An exit poll by the Asian American Legal Defense Fund on Election Day last year found that the majority of Asian voters get their news from ethnic media rather than the mainstream English-language press.

As for Ferrer, he has the backing of the city's only Asian elected officials: Liu and state Assemblyman Jimmy Meng.

Support from the city's Asian voters appears to be up for grabs. Exit polls find that while the majority of Asian voters in New York City are registered Democrats, they are willing to cross party lines for the right candidate.

Both the Ferrer and Bloomberg campaigns employ workers and volunteers fluent in Asian languages and are producing multilingual advertisements and literature. The candidates also visit Asian neighborhoods more frequently and court leaders like Chan, and have been lobbying ethnic newspapers more aggressively than ever.

Another noticeable change is on the airwaves: Some televised debates are being translated and rebroadcast on Korean and Chinese stations.

Victoria Chan, the 18-year-old daughter of York Chan, said she has encountered voter registration tables and campaign posters around every corner in her neighborhood. Suddenly, it seems everyone is talking about politics and getting into the race.

"I've never in my life in Chinatown seen anything like this before," she said.
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