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Marine Corps Plans Weapons & Tech for Osprey - beyond 2030
The U.S. Marine Corps is progressing with a new project to upgrade and arm its MV-22 Osprey aircraft with new weapons such as laser-guided 2.75in rockets, missiles and heavy
The U.S. Marine Corps is progressing with a new project to upgrade and arm its MV-22 Osprey aircraft with new weapons such as laser-guided 2.75in rockets, missiles and heavy guns - a move which would expand the tiltrotor's mission set beyond supply, weapons and forces transport to include a wider range of offensive and defensive combat missions, Corps officials said.

By Kris Osborn

The Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren, has been exploring the use of forward firing rockets, missiles, fixed guns, a chin mounted gun, and also looked at the use of a 30MM gun along with gravity drop rockets and guided bombs deployed from the back of the V-22.

In recent years, the Corps has been working on a study tohelp define the requirements and ultimately inform a Marine Corps decision with regards to armament of the MV-22B Osprey.

Adding weapons to the Opsrey would naturally allow the aircraft to better defend itself should it come under attack from small arms fire, missiles or surface rockets while conducting transport missions; in addition, precision fire will enable the Osprey to support amphibious operations with suppressive or offensive fire as Marines approach enemy territory.

Furthermore, weapons will better facilitate an Osprey-centric tactic known as "Mounted Vertical Maneuver" wherein the tiltrotor uses its airplane speeds and helicopter hover and maneuver technology to transport weapons such as mobile mortars and light vehicles, supplies and Marines behind enemy lines for a range of combat missions -- to include surprise attacks.

The initial steps in the process will include arming the V-22 are to select a Targeting-FLIR, improve Digital Interoperability and designate Integrated Aircraft Survivability Equipment solutions. Integration of new weapons could begin as early as 2019 if the initiatives stay on track and are funded, Corps officials said.

Developers added that "assault support" will remain as the primary mission of the MV-22 Osprey, regardless of the weapons solution selected.

So far, Osprey maker Bell-Boeing has delivered at least 290 MV-22s out of a planned 360 program of record.

Laser-guided Hyra 2.75inch folding fin rockets, such as those currently being fired from Apache attack helicopters, could give the Osprey a greater precision-attack technology. One such program firing 2.75in rockets with laser guidance is called Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System, or APKWS.

Bell-Boeing designed a special pylon on the side of the aircraft to ensure common weapons carriage. The Corps has been analyzing potential requirements for weapons on the Osprey, considering questions such as the needed stand-off distance and level of lethality.

New Osprey Variant in 2030
The Marine Corps is in the early stages of planning to build a new, high-tech MV-22C variant Osprey tiltrotor aircraft to enter service by the mid-2030s, service officials said.

While many of the details of the new aircraft are not yet available, Corps officials told Scout Warrior that the MV-22C will take advantage of emerging and next-generation aviation technologies.

The Marine Corps now operates more than 250 MV-22 Ospreys around the globe and the tiltrotor aircraft are increasingly in demand, Corps officials said.

The Osprey is, among other things, known for its ability to reach speeds of 280 knots and achieve a much greater combat radius than conventional rotorcraft.

Due to its tiltrotor configuration, the Osprey can hover in helicopter mode for close-in surveillance and vertical landings for things like delivering forces, equipment and supplies – all while being able to transition into airplane mode and hit fixed-wing aircraft speeds. This gives the aircraft an ability to travel up 450 nautical miles to and from a location on a single tank of fuel, Corps officials said.

A Corps spokesman told Scout Warrior that, since 2007, the MV-22 has continuously deployed in a wide range of extreme conditions, from the deserts of Iraq and Libya to the mountains of Afghanistan and Nepal, as well as aboard amphibious shipping.

Between January 2007 and August 2015, Marine Corps MV-22s flew more than 178,000 flight hours in support of combat operations, Corps officials said.

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Corps officials said th idea with the new Osprey variant is to build upon the lift, speed and versatility of the aircraft’s tiltrotor technology and give the platform more performance characteristics in the future. While few specifics were yet available -- this will likely include improved sensors, mapping and digital connectivity, even greater speed and hover ability, better cargo and payload capacity, next-generation avionics and new survivability systems such as defenses against incoming missiles and small arms fire.

Greenberg also added that the MV-22C variant aircraft will draw from technologies now being developed for the Army-led Future Vertical Lift program involved in engineering a new fleet of more capable, high-tech aircraft for the mid-2030s

The U.S. Army is currently immersed in testing with two industry teams contracted to develop and build a fuel-efficient, high-speed, high-tech, next-generation medium-lift helicopter to enter service by 2030.

The effort is aimed at leveraging the best in helicopter and aircraft technology in order to engineer a platform that can both reach the high-speeds of an airplane while retaining an ability to hover like a traditional helicopter, developers have said.

The initiate is looking at developing a wide range of technologies including lighter-weight airframes to reduce drag, different configurations and propulsion mechanisms, more fuel efficient engines, the potential use of composite materials and a whole range of new sensor technologies to improve navigation, targeting and digital displays for pilots.

Requirements include an ability to operate in what is called “high-hot” conditions, meaning 95-degrees Fahrenheit and altitudes of 6,000 feet where helicopters typically have difficulty operating. In high-hot conditions, thinner air and lower air-pressure make helicopter maneuverability and operations more challenging.

The Army’s Joint Multi-Role Technology Demonstrator, or JMR TD, program has awarded development deals to Bell Helicopter-Textron and Sikorsky-Boeing teams to build “demonstrator” aircraft by 2017 to help inform the development of a new medium-class helicopter.

Textron Inc.’s Bell Helicopter is building a tilt-rotor aircraft called the Bell V-280 Valor – and the Sikorsky-Boeing team is working on early testing of its SB>1 Defiant coaxial rotor-blade design. A coaxial rotor blade configuration uses counter-rotating blades with a thrusting technology at the back of the aircraft to both remain steady and maximize speed, hover capacity and manueverability.

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The Bell V-280 offering is similar to the Osprey in that it is a tiltrotor aircraft.

Planned missions for the new Future Vertical Lift aircraft include cargo, utility, armed scout, attack, humanitarian assistance, MEDEVAC (medical evacuation), anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare, land/sea search and rescue, special warfare support and airborne mine countermeasures, Army officials have said.

Other emerging technology areas being explored for this effort include next-generation sensors and navigation technologies, autonomous flight and efforts to see through clouds, dust and debris described as being able to fly in a “degraded visual environment.”

Meanwhile, while Corps officials say they plan to embrace technologies from this Army-led program for the new Osprey variant, they also emphasize that the Corps is continuing to make progress with technological improvements to the MV-22.

These include a technology called V-22 Aerial Refueling System, or VARS, to be ready by 2018, Corps developers explained.

The Marine Corps Osprey with VARS will be able to refuel the F-35B Lightning II with about 4,000 pounds of fuel at VARS' initial operating capability and the MV-22B VARS capacity will increase to 10,000 pounds of fuel by 2019, Corps officials told Scout Warrior last year.

The development is designed to enhance the F-35B's range, as well as the aircraft's ability to remain on target for a longer period.

The aerial refueling technology on the Osprey will refuel helicopters at 110 knots and fixed-wing aircraft at 220 knots, Corps developers explained.

The VARS technology will also be able to refuel other aircraft such as the CH-53E/K, F-18, AV-8B Harrier jet and other V-22s.

The Corps has also been developing technology to better network Osprey aircraft through an effort called “Digital Interoperability,” or DI. This networks Osprey crews such that Marines riding in the back can have access to relevant tactical and strategic information while in route to a destination.
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US MV-22 Osprey lands on Australia’s HMAS Canberra for first time ever
I'll post also in Australia Thread US MV-22 Osprey lands on Australia’s HMAS Canberra for first time ever
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Deploying less than ten days ago with a fleet of Royal Australian Navy ships, landing helicopter dock HMAS Canberra completed the first international engagement activity of her Indo-Pacific Endeavour deployment.

Training with her US Navy counterpart, USS Bonhomme Richard, Canberra reached a new milestone on September 8 when a US Marine Corps (USMC) MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor landed on HMAS Canberra’s flight deck for the first time ever.

In addition to the MV-22, the training also involved the SH60S Seahawk helicopter with a focus on flight deck familiarisation for the USMC aircrew and currency training for Adelaide’s aviation support sailors.

Canberra’s sister ship, HMAS Adelaide was the first to accommodate an MV-22 Osprey last year during the US-hosted exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2016.

The Australian Defence Force (ADF) Joint Task Group, Indo-Pacific Endeavour 2017, has completed the first international engagement activity of its deployment.

Commander Joint Task Group, Indo-Pacific Endeavour 2017, Captain Jonathan Earley of the Royal Australian Navy, said successful activities like this highlight the continued enhancement of interoperability between the two militaries.

“It is important that we take opportunities like these to work with our US partners to enhance our understanding and processes for operating with this unique capability,” Captain Earley said.

Running from 4 September to 26 November 2017, Indo-Pacific Endeavour will at various stages involve more than 1200 ADF personnel, six navy ships, and a number of helicopters and fixed wing aircraft.

The engagement is focused on enhancing military cooperation with some of Australia’s key regional partners including Brunei, Cambodia, the Federated States of Micronesia, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, the Philippines, the Republic of Korea, Singapore, Thailand, and Timor-Leste.
 
now noticed NAVAIR Kicking off V-22 Osprey Modernization Drive to Improve Commonality
Naval Air Systems Command has begun its effort to reduce the Marine Corps’ fleet of MV-22 Ospreys from more than 70 distinct variants to about five, after awarding the Bell-Boeing Joint Project Office $57 million to get started on the Common Configuration-Readiness and Modernization (CC-RAM) program.

Having much-increased commonality throughout the Osprey fleet will boost readiness through simplifying the maintenance efforts on the planes, while also generating savings in the supply chain and making operations easier on pilots, V-22 program manager Col. Matthew Kelly told USNI News.

“By increasing the commonality and readiness across these aircraft, the Marine Corps is trying to set up the V-22 for the next 20 years of its service, because it’s been so successful in performing missions for the Marine Corps that no other platform can do,” he said in an interview.

Since Osprey production began in 2004, the Marines have continued to insert reliability and capability improvements into the production line – which not only incurs a cost on the acquisition side, but has made maintenance, operations and logistics a headache. Even within a single squadron, pilots and maintainers may have to work with different configurations that have wires and switches in different places, have different safety and mission capabilities, and require different spare parts.

To address this, the CC-RAM effort will send about 130 V-22s through Boeing’s Philadelphia production line for an eight-month effort to tear apart the planes, make all changes needed to bring the planes up to today’s configuration coming off the production line, and then put the aircraft back together. Any future reliability or capability improvements would be inserted into later rounds of CC-RAM that will likely occur every five or six years – with Marine Corps acquisition of V-22s ending soon, it would be costly and eventually impossible to continue inserting these upgrades in the production line, Kelly said.

“We probably took over a year to come up with what we thought was the best list of modifications for CC-RAM, and we started with essentially what’s coming off the production line now. We have been making reliability improvements over time, and so what’s coming off the production line now is the result of our basic design plus all of the things that we’ve done over the years to make this a more reliable aircraft,” he said.
“We looked at all of the things that gave that newer aircraft better reliability and then that commonality with the rest of the fleet. So we wanted to make sure that, say, a pilot that goes to any of these aircraft sees the same thing – but even more importantly, that any maintainer that goes to one of these aircraft from an electrical perspective, from a maintenance perspective, that they are looking at the same thing too. And that’s huge from a readiness perspective because now we’re talking about not having that maintainer need to worry about which version do I have, what configuration am I in, to look at what instruction he has to go to. We’re really talking about, I don’t need to worry about that because it’s a V-22 and I know what a V-22 looks like, and they all have wires in the same spot that do the same thing. So that increases troubleshooting. It also has benefits across our supply chain – we have one set of parts, we have one set of maintenance documentation, we have one set of support equipment that supports that common configuration.”

Kelly said the biggest upgrades include modifying the fuel dump system, adding a traffic collision avoidance system, adding weather radar, replacing the mission computer, and upgrading the electrical generators.

But even for some of the smaller changes, he said, “different is different, right? If I need another set of maintenance instructions or potentially more pages in my flight manual to try to tell me, if I’m flying this aircraft do this, if I’m flying that aircraft do something else.”

“It’s everything from wiring; it’s upgraded electrical generators that support more equipment; it is the cockpit configuration, where all the buttons and switches and radios are in the same spot for the pilot, they’re not worried about where that switch is on which aircraft they’re going in today. It plays a role for the pilot – I would say the even bigger role though is from that maintenance perspective,” Kelly added.

The first contract modification for $57 million covers work instructions for disassembly, incorporation of the upgrades and reassembly; tooling; and a single prototype V-22 to prove out the instructions.

The colonel said it would take upwards of a year to complete the first Osprey, but that subsequent aircraft should take about eight months. The production line in Philadelphia should eventually be able to handle 24 aircraft at once, though the program will start slow – two vehicles in the first year of production, followed by five, then 10, and eventually ramping up to 24. The first contract award will be for one year plus options for four more years, totaling 51 V-22s plus the prototype.

“As we get started – and we’re still in negotiations really on the recurring cost for the additional aircraft – our biggest concern is making sure we are getting a good price in our negotiations and making sure we are getting a good value for the taxpayer as we negotiate over the next few months what each aircraft is going to cost,” Kelly said.
“We know these modifications have really all been done on other aircraft, or in the production line, so we know they work, but we want to make sure we can get them at the right cost.”
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rather long time ago Feb 26, 2015
yesterday under some blog a poster said Israel cancelled Ospreys to get F-35s ... I didn't believe it, but used google anyway, and found
Israel Commits To 31 Lockheed F-35 Aircraft, Cancels 6 Boeing-Built V-22 Ospreys Amid Increased Political Tensions
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so will Israel get any Ospreys at all??
and now Israel steps back from V-22 purchase
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The Israeli air force has frozen its evaluation of the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey, with a senior defence source indicating that the tiltrotor is unable to perform some missions currently conducted using its Sikorsky CH-53 transport helicopters.

In January 2014, the US Department of Defense notified Congress about its intention to sell six V-22s to Israel. This followed an evaluation conducted by air force personnel, which led to the service seeking a rapid acquisition to support special operations. The proposed purchase met with opposition from elsewhere within Israel's defence ministry, however.

Other potential candidates to replace the Israeli air force's aged CH-53s by around 2025 include Sikorsky's new CH-53K and the Boeing CH-47 Chinook.

Some of the service's current CH-53s have amassed more than 10,000 flying hours, and it expects to continue operating updated examples until 2028.
 

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As a replacement for CH53 Osprey would be a poor choice.
It was never designed to replace the CH53, It was designed to replace the CH46 which is a medium lift helicopter.CH53 is a heavy lift helicopter

Where Osprey might have shined is as a Special ops transport for the IDF. It has a longer range ( almost one and a half times that of the CH53E) fair cargo load for a SF Team An Israeli made TE1 or TE3 Tomcar can fit in the cargo bay.
 
Sep 14, 2017
now noticed NAVAIR Kicking off V-22 Osprey Modernization Drive to Improve Commonality

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while Marines Want a Truck-Mounted Rocket-Launcher that Fits in an Osprey
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The
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is on the hunt for an uber-compact rocket launcher system capable of raining down suppressive fire on the enemy, then flying away in a
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or CH-53K King Stallion.

As the Corps prepares for a future fight in which units operate with greater independence and at greater distances apart, portability and power are at a premium.

At the National Defense Industrial Association’s Expeditionary Warfare Conference, Marine Maj. Gen. David Coffman, director of expeditionary warfare for the
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, said the service was after a system that could deliver both precision and suppressive effects.

“If we can get a self-contained vehicle that can fire rockets, a box of rockets on a truck that fits in the back of a tiltrotor or a ’53-K, that’s what we’re after,” he said.

Speaking to Military.com, Coffman expanded on his vision for such a system, saying he had in mind something potentially smaller than a
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.

“I don’t know what’s in the art of the possible, physics-wise, to get a vehicle that can withstand the recoil of rockets firing, and be a stable enough platform, and still be light enough to be lifted in a helicopter, and all that,” he said. “So I don’t know what industry can do, whether that’s possible or not … [but] that’s what we need.”

The Marine Corps currently deploys the Expeditionary Fire Support System, a 120mm mortar system designed to fit in a trailer pulled by a small all-terrain vehicle that fits inside an Osprey.

Next year, the system is due to receive a
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from 8 kilometers to 16, or roughly 10 miles.

But Coffman said precision rounds are also being developed for the man-portable 81mm mortar system, minimizing the advantage of the EFSS.

“It kind of overcomes the need for the 120,” he said.

Ideally, Coffman said, the system he has in mind will have a range competitive with the
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, or HIMARS, which is mounted on a 5-ton truck and has a range of 70 kilometers, or about 43 miles.

So far, all these requirements represent a wish list, but Coffman said he has had some promising conversations with industry professionals

“Let’s see what industry comes up with,” he said.

The Marine Corps, at the behest of Commandant Gen. Robert Neller, is working elsewhere to beef up its artillery capabilities and get more out of its existing systems.

In a first for the service, Marines on Monday fired a
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, proving the service’s ability to take out a land-based target from the sea at maximum effective range.
 

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Tyrant King
Osprey or CH53K.
The British were working on a system that could be underslung under a CH47 the LIMAWS (R) limaws_r.jpg
Could be carried from a C130 or slung under a Chinook or presumably the heavier CH53K based on a Supercat chassis used MLRS cells.
they canned it back in 05.

Mounting a Rocket pod on a vehicle small enough for a Osprey is almost impossible due to the fact the vehicle cannot be more the a 60 by 60 square to fit through the door and 23 feet long. That means there is no way a rocket system based on the existing US MLRS can be used. as although the pods can fit in the cargo bay being about 13 ft long and around 30 inches wide that doesn't leave much room for the vehicle.
A 120 mortar is easy. I mean they already have those.
105mm Self propelled howitzer ( basically a M119 bolted to a large UTV maybe.
 
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