US Navy Ford Class nuclear carriers

while writing my rants

Apr 10, 2016
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/aircraft-carriers-iii.t7304/page-110#post-413000

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Sep 1, 2016
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/aircraft-carriers-iii.t7304/page-110#post-413135

I didn't know Carrier Ford Has Serious Power Problem
For over a year, the US Navy and its shipbuilders have been anxious to get the new aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) to sea and begin engineering trials of the first-of-class design. A number of publicly-announced target dates have come and gone, but the ship is still firmly moored at Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia.

Now, however, a key factor in preventing the ship from casting off lines and getting underway is coming into view. A serious voltage regulator problem on the carrier’s four main turbine generators (MTGs) has prevented engineers from running the motors up to full power, and only now has the problem been identified and a fix decided upon.

The MTGs are a significant element in the ship’s power generation system – an all-new layout supporting a plant developing at least three times the electrical power of previous carriers.

The problem manifested itself June 12 when a small electrical explosion took place on the No. 2 MTG during testing. Navy sources disagree whether the term “explosion” is appropriate, but two sources familiar with the situation used the reference, one noting that “it was enough of an explosion that debris got into the turbine.” Smoke from the event reportedly was drawn into other spaces, one source reported.

According to Capt. Thurraya Kent, spokesperson for the Navy’s acquisition directorate, “personnel detected a burning smell.” There was no fire, Kent insisted, and “no fire-extinguishing actions were taken.” No one was injured and there was no evacuation of personnel, she added.

In a statement responding to a Defense News query, Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) said the issues “were not associated with the nuclear reactor plant and had no impact on safe operation of the nuclear reactor.”

On the record, NAVSEA declined to provide further details, other than to acknowledge that two MTG issues have been experienced.

But, according to sources, the June 12 event severely damaged the No. 2 MTG, and the accident slowed further MTG testing until the problem could be identified. Then in July, a similar, less-dramatic event took place on the No. 1 MTG, according to a Pentagon source.

Eventually the root cause was found to be faulty voltage regulators, the Pentagon source said. It is not clear if the voltage regulators are part of the generators, which are made by Northrop Grumman Marine Systems, or are a sub-component from another supplier.

Engineers were also debating how to repair the generators, and for a time it was feared the entire 12-ton No. 2 MTG would have to be lifted out and replaced – a complex, time-consuming and expensive operation that would involve disrupting numerous ship systems and making major cuts in several decks.

But subsequent investigation showed the No. 2 MTG’s rotors could be removed and replaced without the major disruption of a complete replacement, and No. 1 MTG could be repaired in place. Several repair options were developed, including whether or not to completely repair the MTGs before sea trials and delivery – causing further delays -- or wait until a post-commissioning shipyard period to finish the work.

On Sept. 14, the Pentagon source confirmed, Navy officials decided on a partial fix now and a permanent fix later. The No. 2 MTG rotors will be removed while repairs are made to No. 1, and full repairs to No. 2 will wait for the post-shakedown availability (PSA) overhaul sometime after the ship is commissioned.

Repairs are estimated to cost about $37 million, the Pentagon official said, and while delivery is likely delayed until about March 2017, Navy officials said enough cost offsets have been identified that the work can be completed under congressionally-imposed cost caps – currently set at $12.9 billion.

Even with the delivery delays, officials said, the planned initial deployment in 2021 is not affected, nor are full-scale shock trials now scheduled for 2019. The Pentagon source noted that if the shock trials are put off until subsequent ships – as was done with the previous carrier class – the first deployment could come sooner.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, in an Aug. 31 memo on the carrier’s technical issues to Pentagon acquisition chief Frank Kendall, reported the MTG issue was “likely due to a manufacturing defect,” and that “analysis of this issue revealed design vulnerabilities that must be addressed prior to ship’s delivery.”

Mabus noted that “the nation’s leading experts on shipboard power generation systems are working resolution of these issues with a priority on safe, reliable system performance while balancing cost and schedule considerations.”

In the Aug. 31 memo, a copy of which was obtained by Defense News, Mabus also ticked off the status of several other issues highlighted by Kendall in an Aug. 23 memo directing a new, 60-day independent review team to look at issues with the CVN 78 class. The power generation issue was included in the memo, but none of the other issues seem to directly prevent the ship from getting under way to conduct hull, maintenance and engineering trials.

The Electromagnetic Aircraft Launching System (EMALS), Mabus reported, “has completed all shipboard testing pending the commencement of shipboard aircraft operations” during extensive post-delivery testing and trials, adding that “the Navy is confident that EMALS is on track to support CVN 78 system performance requirements and we look forward to demonstrating continued reliability growth of this system.”

The ship’s Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) is more problematic, and “has had significant delays in completing its land-based test program due to the technical challenges encountered in transitioning from design” through final testing, Mabus reported. Other Navy sources report dozens of roll-through tests have been conducted with the AAG at the Navy’s test facility in Lakehurst, New Jersey, but to date no true arrested landings have been accomplished.

Mabus noted that the Navy is reviewing whether to continue with AAG installation on the Enterprise (CVN 80), third ship in the class, or return to the standard Mark 7 aircraft recovery system operating on all current carriers. Installation of AAG on the second ship, John F. Kennedy (CVN 79), is continuing for now, Mabus noted, because design and construction work has progressed to the point where a replacement would have a significantly negative impact on costs and schedule.

The Ford’s dual band radar (DBR) installation is still completing its shipboard test program, Mabus reported, but full system testing won’t be carried out until the ship’s power system is lit off in conjunction with the shipboard test program. “We are confident in our ability to successfully demonstrate the functionality required for successful sea trials and, subsequently, for operation testing in post-delivery,” Mabus wrote.

Testing of the ship’s 11 advanced weapons elevators continues, Mabus said, acknowledging that “these new-design weapons elevators have experienced delays in late-stage integrated shipboard testing mainly due to correction of software discrepancies.”

While indicating he doesn’t expect all 11 elevators to be properly operating at the time of sea trials, Mabus declared that “the Navy is confident we will get through these first-of-class issues and ensure that lessons learned on CVN 78 are directly applied to CVN 79.”
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I didn't know Carrier Ford Has Serious Power Problem

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Whenever you are breaking into new technologies and frontiers and horizons, you are going to have these issues.

The USS Gerald Ford is a first in class with a completely new reactor and a completely new electrical system.

They have apparently identified the problem and the fix...and the problem apparently did not keep the ship from operating, just from running up to full power.

I expect they will fix it and we will see her at sea sooner rather than later...but probably with some dealy.

I'm okay with that.

What the US is doing with those new reactors, the all electrical distribution, EMALS, and the numerpous other innovations is expensive and risky in terms of schedules and budgets.

That's what it takes to stay in the number one position and to be a generation or two ahead of your potential competitors.
 

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Can anyone explain why theu never prime all the metal sheets and units before adding to the ship?
It is so rusty when building and also in parts where people will never go again...
 

Jeff Head

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Very nice Master Jeff,,,,,no pressure but we'd like to start those sea trials on March 15th!

I always get a kick out of all the 'craze" over the dates and the in-evitable "slippage" that we always experience with every new "high zoot" capability, thinking of the Ford. We always would rather have it yesterday?? I guess that just the "necessary tension", but I always wonder if things couldn't be a little more functional if folks had a little more time to work all the angles???
There is SO much new on the Ford...new reactors, (each over 200% more powerful than their predecessors), and all new all-electric system and drive, new electromagnetic catapults, new electromagnetic trapping of aircraft, an all new island, new berthing, new weapons stores and handling, one less elevator with a new deck layout, they intend to ultimately add rail guns and lasers for self defense with all that additional electric power available.

They have to document all of this, test it, write up the SOPs and the operational theory for all of it.

I expect for such a new class carrier with so much innovation for the trials, the testing, the commissioning, etc. to all take up much more time than the later Nimitz class took.

Each Ford class will take less as they go along...but the Nimitz class did not nearly have as high a hill to climb. With the Kitty Hawk class and the Enterprise coming before and all of the technology being so close to those carriers we already had...it just did not take as long.

This is ALL NEW.

They will have and are having similar issues with the Zumwalts, and even the LCS. Both of those are all new classes.

Anyhow, I am not nearly as worried, particularly now that we have grown ups in charge once again.

God bless you my friend...let's be patient.

I hope to see it and be allowed to live long enough to see the tirlas and thin initial IOC for the Ford. I would view it as a real treat and tender mercy from God to live long enough to see the new Enterprise launched...but am not counting on it...hehehe, at least not in the flesh!

Either way, these are going to be awesome vessels...and they will be an ordr or two of magnitude better than anyone else's vessels, although the UK will have similar issues with the new QEs...but still no where near the new technologies being introduced there.
 
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US Naval Institute said:
ug boats maneuver the aircraft carrier Pre-Commissioning Unit Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) into the James River during the ship’s turn ship evolution June 11, 2016. US Navy Photo

This post has been updated to correct the title of Ye-Ling Wang, who now serves as program manager for future aircraft carriers. A previous version of this post referred to her as deputy program manager, which is her previous title.

Aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) will head to sea for builders trials next month, a next step leading up to its commissioning later this year.

The ship is currently participating in a series of certifications – part of the critical path testing that ensures the ship is in good material condition to go to sea and the crew is proficient enough to safely operate the carrier, Ye-Ling Wang, program manager for future aircraft carriers at the Program Executive Office for Aircraft Carriers (PMS 378), said today at the American Society for Naval Engineers’ Technologies, Systems and Ships event.

As part of this “safe to sail” event, she said navigation certification activities are currently taking place, as well as an overall crew certification effort run by the type commander.

Before the ship can go to sea for builders trials, the crew and the ship will go through certifications on navigation, communications, ship handling, habitability, propulsion plant, damage control and more. Those involved will also be looking ahead for any possible hazards during the planned builders trials and, if any exist, find ways now to mitigate those potential problems.

Builders trials are hosted by the contractor to demonstrate the ship’s quality and ability to perform at sea. Wang told USNI News that Ford would not launch or recover any airplanes during this test, but rather just demonstrate the ship’s more basic functions.

Acceptance trials would be the next step, when a government team of evaluators would ensure the ship and crew are ready to join the fleet. PEO Carriers officials told USNI News that a commissioning date has not yet been scheduled and is currently slated for “later this year.”

I am really looking forward to seeing this carrier go out to sea!
 

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Interesting page...very interesting!..lots of pretty pictures of CVN-78 & CVN-79..

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I am excited about having another USS Enterprise, CVN-80...if I can live long enough to see it!

The first time they come out with one of these big models (like the Reagan I just finished) for the Ford Class, I will build it as the USS Enterprise, CVN-80.

I hope that happens too while I am still breathing air!

Here's my Reagan:

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