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now I read US Army’s New UH-60V Black Hawk Makes First Flight

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We lived in Huntsville for a while when I was very young, my Mom told me I had opened the oven door in our very small apt and she couldn't get back in the house. She was hanging out laundry, LOL, and their was lots of that with my little brother "dirty drawers", back in the day of cloth diapers, LOL.

Not sure if my Dad was flying the C-119 or C-130, but I would guess he was flying the "dollar nineteen"? with the huge clamshell doors in back. He flew a lot of paratroops back then? but he may have been "going to school" in Huntsville?
 

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It's good to be an Air Force pilot right now! I'm sure it's the same for the Navy aviators as well.:eek::D

Perfect example here of what I call the "chickification" of the USAF, the Air Force attracts women for the status, and the fact that it is the less physical service?? The Marines are still men and proudly so, "The Marines want a few good men"..

I can count of the fingers of one hand the number of chicks who have "hung out" at the airport, or the gunshop,,,,, for that matter at the motorcycle shop. They have no innate need for these types of activities, its a mans world. The occasional chick who wants to play, I'm all in, I love the ladies. The chicks who just wanta run things and take advantage of a govt sponsored advantage over their more qualified male peer, run for office, run a restaurant or even a bar, the same applies to folks who have gender confusion...


The US military doesn't need the distraction of being a social change agent, truth is, those people are the folks who usually break, and give up national secrets, look at "Bradley Manning", troubled folks don't need the added stress of military life, get em out!

I can guarantee the Kim jung Un, Putin, or even Emporer Xi are not distracted by such banal stoopidity.
 
Wednesday at 8:11 AM
now I read (just a link here because of Politics inside)
Lead senators upbeat Congress will avoid shutdown, CR, but DoD taking no chances
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Manning gaps, canceled operations and broken ships on tap if Congress can't pass a budget
Congress can either pass a budget or accept a degraded and increasingly hollow Navy, a top Navy admiral said Monday.

The short-term deal funding the government is due to expire at the end of this month.

If Congress fails to pass a new budget for 2017 but relies instead on a yearlong stopgap measure -- known as a continuing resolution, or "CR" -- it will cut into how many ships the Navy can afford to get underway and how many aircraft it can afford to put in the air, said Adm. Bill Moran, vice chief of naval operations.

Furthermore, it would prompt the Navy to put off maintenance and that would mean more broken ships and aircraft that couldn’t get underway even if they had the money.

“A full-year continuing resolution at this point implies a lot of things," Moran said at the outset of the annual industry conference at National Harbor, Maryland.

"With two thirds of the year gone, we’ve spent all the free cash we have to do things like deploy, to operate, to do maintenance,” Moran said. “If we don’t see a budget by the end of this month and we go into a full-year CR, we’re going to have to defer a whole bunch of things.”

The problem the Navy faces is that seven months into fiscal year 2017, Congress still hasn’t passed a budget and has shown very little ability to pass anything at all. The Navy was supposed to get a plus-up in 2017. But a stopgap spending bill, or continuing resolution, would lock in lower spending levels carried over from 2106, which would be devastating to the Navy for the rest of the year, Moran said.

The cuts would have a long-term impact on training pipelines and manning in the fleet, meaning sailors will have to accept more work with less help. If Congress passes the CR, ships would have to cancel underway periods and fighters will be spending more time on the tarmac.

“We’ll have to slow down some of the steaming operations around the globe where we’ve got folks deployed today,” Moran said. “We’ll have to slow down flight operations at those same locations. We’ll have to slow down training at our fleet replacement squadrons who are training new pilots to come into the fleet, which will mean manning gaps in squadrons around the fleet down the line.”

Moran also lamented the smaller size of the fleet, which contrasts with the Navy's growing level of responsibility.

“We are significantly smaller than we were just a few years ago,” Moran said. “But we have the same level of commitment around the globe with a smaller Navy. You do the math -- you are going to wear out that Navy fast, much faster than we planned for.”

President Trump has committed to building a 350-ship fleet, but the concept will meet resistance on Capitol Hill, where the raging debate over spending priorities that created the budget cuts of the past half-decade show no signs of clearing despite the Republican's control of both chambers. Republicans continue to battle internally about whether to prioritize defense spending or reductions to overall government spending and debt.

The Navy League's SeaAirSpace conference runs through Wednesday.
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Mar 14, 2017
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Marines’ CH-53K King Stallion Set to Become World’s Most Expensive Helicopter

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Total cost of CH-53K is $131 million per helicopter: Here's the breakdown
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If the CH-53K King Stallion were a new car, its sticker price would be $87.1 million, but with title, tax and tags it would run $131 million per helicopter.

The Marine Corps ultimately plans to buy 200 CH-53Ks by 2029 to replace its fleet of aging CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters, which have the most serious readiness problems of all aircraft in the Marine Corps' current fleet.

Earlier this month, Rep. Niki Tsongas, D-Mass., asserted that the price for each CH-53K had ballooned from $87.1 million to $122 million per helicopter, which is made by Sikorsky, a Lockheed Martin company.

“So that cost growth, multiplied times 200, is a heck of a lot of money,” Tsongas said at a March 10 House Armed Services Tactical Air and Land Forces subcommittee hearing. “And even if there is no additional cost growth, it seems worth pointing out that $122 million per aircraft in 2006 dollars exceeds the current cost of an F-35, an aircraft for the Air Force, by a significant margin.”

The Marine Corps responded that the per-unit cost for the CH-53K has not increased, but that, with any aircraft, the first ones built are always more expensive than the rest due to non-recurring engineering and tooling costs needed to stand up the production line.

“The first time you do something, maybe you’re not so good at doing it,” Marine Col. Henry Vanderborght said Monday at the Navy League’s annual Sea-Air-Space symposium.

“You get better over time. There’s process improvements with aircraft after aircraft; we find more efficient ways to do things; there may be some material changes that occur during the production run – and all of those things put together allow the cost to go down as you acquire your units.”

But the $87.1 million figure does not include ancillary and development costs, said Vanderborght, program manager for Marine Corps and Navy heavy lift helicopters.

The CH-53K costs include $19.2 billion in procurement costs, including ancillary equipment, such as engine covers; labor costs for engineers; spare parts and other expenses, Vanderborght said.

When you add the $6.9 billion in research and development for the CH-53K, you get a total cost of $26.1 billion, which comes to about $131 million for each helicopter, he said.

However, the cost of each helicopter could go down further based on foreign military sales, Vanderborght said. The Germans have expressed interest in buying up to 41 CH-53Ks, he said.

“You add another 25 percent to your production run, production unit cost goes down,” Vanderborght said.

Having foreign militaries such as the Germans purchase CH-53Ks would also allow the Marine Corps to share sustainment costs with allies, he said.
 
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US Navy awards $114M order for new Hornet engines
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The U.S. Navy has awarded General Electric a $114.8 million contract to install new turbofan jet engines on the branch’s F/A-18 and EA-18G Hornet aircraft,
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The fixed-price contract provides procurement funding for the Lot 20 and Lot 21 full-rate production of 28
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. With 18 percent more thrust and twice the horsepower of the previous model, the engines are capable of producing 22,000 pounds of thrust, according to General Electric.

Work will be performed in Lynn, Massachusetts; Hooksett, New Hampshire; Rutland, Vermont; and Madisonville, Kentucky, according to the DoD.

Naval Air Systems Command of Patuxent River, Maryland, is overseeing the project, which is expected to be completed in February 2019.
 
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Mar 14, 2017

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Total cost of CH-53K is $131 million per helicopter: Here's the breakdown
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DOD demurs on production go-ahead for CH-53K
The Pentagon and Sikorsky are keeping mum on the CH-53K King Stallion’s production go-ahead decision, which was scheduled for a high-level review last week.

The US Marine Corps’ CH-53K was slated for a decision to launch low-rate initial production on 30 March, but Sikorsky and the US Navy’s programme manager for heavy lift helicopters would not comment on the decision during the annual Sea Air Space conference outside Washington this week

“We’re just waiting for OSD [the office of the secretary of defense] to come out and say what they need to say,” US Marine Corps Col Henry Vanderborght told reporters 3 April. “I can tell you officially, we’ve purchased material for low-rate initial production lot 1.”

A Pentagon spokesman did not elaborate on the reasoning behind the delayed Milestone C decision.

“Results of defense acquisition board meetings are pre-decisional, until they are completed, documented and approved by the Defense Acquisition Executive (DAE),” the spokesman says. “It would be inappropriate to comment at this time because we do not want to get ahead of the requirements that are part of the approval process.”

Sikorsky has not yet finalised its design for the CH-53K, a company spokesman tells FlightGlobal. Operational testing scheduled in 2019 could discover additional components requiring changes, she adds. The Pentagon does not require Sikorsky to finalise its design before milestone C and additional changes could be made as needed following testing.

Meanwhile, Sikorsky has largely solved several outstanding issues on the King Stallion, including engine flameouts and main rotor damper overheating pointed out in a 2016 report from the Pentagon’s top weapons tester. The helicopter experienced a few flameouts in the second engine, though none during flight, he says. Flameouts occurred when the pilot landed the aircraft, reduced its power and attitude on the runway. The USMC tried to recreate the problem in the air by going beyond the level attitude after a certain time in flight, but the service could not replicate the issue.

“Basically we instrumented the fuel lines on the number two engine and what we found is that because of vibration or some other condition, air would come out of solution of the fuel and we basically get trapped in the geometry of the fuel lines in the aircraft,” he says. “As soon as you went to a condition of low power on the ground and level attitude, that air would go into the engine and cause the engine to flame out.”

The helicopter operates at a higher power setting while flying and couldn’t repeat the flameout since there’s more pressure for the fuel moving toward the engine, Vanderborght says. That column of air moves through the engine and has no effect. The USMC is already working on a more powerful engine rivet suction pump that should fix the issue, he adds.

“It’s already at GE in the test cell working and now it’s just a matter of flying with it on the airplane,” he says. “That pump will increase the pressure of the fuel going to the engine and prevent some of these flameouts here.”

Modifications to the second engine compartment have resolved most of the engine overheating issues, Vanderborght says. Sikorsky maintains the problem is gone but hasn’t finished testing, which will wrap in spring of 2019, says Michael Torok, Lockheed Martin’s vice president of CH-53K programmes. Sikorsky has also adjusted the rotor damper to ameliorate an issue with the helicopter’s aft center of gravity.
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Boeing Poseidon contract includes first UK Aircraft

Boeing has received a USD2.2 billion contract for 17 P-8A Poseidon Multimission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) that includes the first for the United Kingdom.

The contract, which was announced by the company on 3 April but awarded on 30 March, covers 11 aircraft for the US Navy (USN), 4 for the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), and 2 for the UK Royal Air Force (RAF). It also includes options for 32 more aircraft which, if exercised, would bring the contract value up to USD6.8 billion.

The UK government announced its plans to buy nine P-8As in the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) in late 2015, and signed the formal order at the Farnborough International Airshow in July 2016. According to previous announcements, the total cost of the procurement is valued at GBP3 billion (USD4 billion) over the next 10 years.

Further to the aircraft, the UK government has disclosed that the procurement includes off-the-shelf purchases of unspecified weapons, sonar buoys, and other 'consumables'. It has since been reported that the RAF's P-8As will field the same MK54 torpedoes and Harpoon ant-ship missiles as the USN's.

With the fleet set to be delivered from 2019 through to early 2022, the RAF will operate the type out of RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland. As well as the nine aircraft some 400 operational and support personnel will be located at the base, with GBP100 million being invested in new dedicated infrastructure.

Billed as a 'Multimission Maritime Aircraft' (MMA), the P-8A will be employed primarily for maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare, but can also be used for anti-surface vessel warfare and overland intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR).

Boeing so far has delivered 53 P-8A Poseidons to the USN (out of a programme of record of 117 aircraft, of which 109 have been approved) and two to the RAAF (which intends to buy 15), as well as eight P-8I Neptunes to the Indian Navy (with four more on contract).

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Ohio-class subs could be unfit underwater in a decade, STRATCOM warns
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April 4, 2017
WASHINGTON — Navy officials may have as little as a decade before their Ohio-class submarine fleet won’t dive beneath the waves anymore, the head of U.S. Strategic Command warned lawmakers on Tuesday.

“Each submarine is built to go down, under pressure, a certain number of times. Once you reach the end of life, you can't go down any more,” said Air Force Gen. John Hyten, STRATCOM commander, in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee. “And a submarine on the top of the water is not an effective deterrent.”

The comments came as Hyten detailed the need for stable and sufficient funding for nuclear modernization efforts, including the military’s submarines. Navy officials have already begun a $100 billion-plus plan to replace the aging Ohio-class submarines with the Columbia-class in coming years, but the STRATCOM commander warned that recent budget fights could jeopardize that progress.

“Every year [of] that program, if it slips one year then the future commander of STRATCOM is down one nuclear submarine,” he said. “Two years, two nuclear submarines.

“We know that because there's a certain time in the future where Ohio-class submarine just will not go under the water anymore, just the pressure on the vessel itself will not allow it to go down. (The Columbia-class program) has to stay on time.”

Hyten would not detail exactly when military officials predict the older subs will become obsolete, but said the problem will start “towards the end of the next decade.”

Lawmakers at the hearing called that alarming. Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., called it “a very precipitous risk” for the country if a replacement isn’t prioritized.

Hyten’s comments were the most recent of a series of dire predictions from military officials about looming defense budget issues, as lawmakers try and find a solution for federal spending for the remainder of the fiscal year.

Most federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, have been operating off fiscal 2016 spending levels since last fall as Congress tries to work out a long-term spending plan for the government. If a solution is not found before the end of April, the country will face another partial government shutdown.

In recent days, lawmakers have discussed the possibility of another continuing resolution to push the funding fight to October, but military leaders have warned that plan will leave them short on a number of multiyear procurement and planning priorities, including the Columbia-class subs

Last week, Marine Lt. Gen. Jon Davis, deputy commandant for aviation, said he would be forced cut all flying hours for several F/A-18 Super Hornet and Harrier squadrons under a continuing resolution. Service officials are expected to outline other possible training and personnel cuts at a House Armed Services Committee hearing Wednesday.

Hyten said the continued budget confusion is taking a toll on his service members.

“They are dealing with very old equipment,” he said. “We have a commitment to them, as a nation, that we need to give them the tools they need in order to do their job. Their enthusiasm can only last a certain amount of time, and if we don't follow through on that commitment, that morale will be brought into question.”

Lawmakers have been unable to reach a long-term funding deal balancing military and non-defense funding since 2011, when they passed 10 years of budget caps designed to reign in the federal budget.
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