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siegecrossbow

Lieutenant General
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So basically China needs to expand aquaculture exponential for national security.

More like there should be a way to mark these containers properly. Any ship or subs could potentially run into these things and even without injuries to the crew/and or loss of life, the fish owner could lose millions of dollars worth of fish.
 

Temstar

Captain
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Xi Yazhou's personal take on USS Connecticut. To sum it up: it's very likely to be collusion with another ship (the other ship would be making news by now), extremely unlikely to be collusion with a semi-submerged object such as a not-quite-sunk container, somewhat likely to be due to running onto an underwater object.

However he proposes another possibility - side impact. The front of the sub acts as a decent crumple zone and can absorb a lot of energy without causing 11 injuries among the crew, a frontal impact of that magnitude cannot be due to an UUAV. However hitting the sub from the side or from top/bottle means much less crumple zone and more of the energy will be transmitted inside, thus making UUAV a possibility.

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Xi proposes that a large UUAV, such as possible Russian nuclear powered UUAV (Xi however thinks it's unlikely to be a Poseidon/Status-6 nuclear torpedo) or something similar by another country may have been in close proximity to USS Connecticut. Weather the sub is trying to collect sound signature from the UUAV or the reverse who knows. But perhaps USS Connecticut tried to adjust depth and rammed the UUAV from below. Certainly if you wanted to gather sound signature from such a new system without being discovered than the most stealthy SSN in the fleet is a good bet.

This would explain why Zhao Lijian during MFA's press conference insisted US answer the question weather a nuclear leak occurred. Seen as USS Connecticut made it back to Guam under its own power it seems extremely unlikely its reactor was damaged, but if a second nuclear powered vehicle (a much smaller one) was involved then it does become possible.

If in the future we see photos of USS Connecticut showing damage to its topside than the above theory seems possible.
 

Tam

Brigadier
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If you accidentally hit a large container ship on the way up, the container ship won't even be aware of it.
 

ougoah

Colonel
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It's not a fishing cage it collided with. No fishing cage has the density and structural rigidity to cause any damage to a submarine. Fish cages are also more or less stationary objects.

This was clearly a collision with a geographic feature or another man made vehicle of substantial enough mass and/or speed to cause 11 injuries on the Seawolf. Either that or a smaller vehicle that collided with the Seawolf on its side. It could have been intentional or an accidental collision either caused by the Seawolf not realising the object is there or the object ramming into it either accidentally or intentionally. Neither side are saying much at all and probably know far more than they are letting... well for the US that's a certainty. It could even be a Japanese, Russian, or Taiwanese object.
 

siegecrossbow

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It's not a fishing cage it collided with. No fishing cage has the density and structural rigidity to cause any damage to a submarine. Fish cages are also more or less stationary objects.

This was clearly a collision with a geographic feature or another man made vehicle of substantial enough mass and/or speed to cause 11 injuries on the Seawolf. Either that or a smaller vehicle that collided with the Seawolf on its side. It could have been intentional or an accidental collision either caused by the Seawolf not realising the object is there or the object ramming into it either accidentally or intentionally. Neither side are saying much at all and probably know far more than they are letting... well for the US that's a certainty. It could even be a Japanese, Russian, or Taiwanese object.

Am not sure you realize how massive the aquaculture enclosures are.
 

ougoah

Colonel
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Am not sure you realize how massive the aquaculture enclosures are.

They're large but often no rigidity and extremely low density. They do not exert much pressure on any object that collide with them unless we're talking some seriously fast speeds which torpedoes would have trouble accumulating.

Unless the collision was the Seawolf steering into a supporting structure with high density. So non-frontal collision. But where would it get that speed.

Also if it is a collision with aquaculture enclosure, it would be said as such immediately.
 

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