Unmanned Combat Ground Vehicle
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Is this the first time we've seen actual footage of robo-doggy firing its gun?
I don't want to doubt the authenticity of the video, considering it was posted by Kestrel defense, but the factors like low-quality footage, whatnot, I'm hopeful but not entirely convinced.
I have a question, I don’t know what you think
What do we need UGCV to do? To what extent should UGCV autonomy? How weight of UGCV?
Obviously, it is not particularly difficult to complete a UGCV. In China, you can easily find a lot of shelf products to assemble (except for weapons), and you can even choose a machine dog as a platform -this is too COOL.
However, as an engineering design, it requires several compromises. It is impossible for anything to ask for this and that, so that it will only be born of a scrap iron that is not done well.
Explain my point of view, throw out a brick to attract a jade.
What is the biggest advantage of UGCV? I think there is no man. It sounds like a nonsense, but that's it. With the development of modern war, the cost of soldiers is getting higher and higher. The cost of training a professional soldier plus a country to cultivate an adult is high. This cost is so high that it is reasonable to kill soldiers with ATGM. We can already see such scenes on some battlefields. The best thing for robots is things that are dangerous and difficult. In the battle, I think the most practical role is to drive suicide bomber's truck and become a supporting weapon carrier.
The Syrian war has shown us that the suicide bomber's truck can play a role in damage strongholds. It sounds like attacking from Kamikaze to anti -ship missiles. This will be the cheapest choice if there is no other firepower delivery method.
Supporting weapon carrier vehicles is to imagine that there is a light vehicle that is light than the IFV, do not consider a large number of carrier staff, carry HMG, ATGM, 60mm mortar and its ammunition. The unmanned leopard cat car group is very suitable. If it is long -distance support, you don't have to consider the threat of the fragile sensor on the vehicle. And the loud sound and light that supports weapons can easily attract the attention of the enemy. Especially when ATGM is against the armored unit, the operator may bear a certain psychological pressure until the missile hit. At this time, the benefits brought by inhumration are displayed.
What do we need UGCV to do? To what extent should UGCV autonomy? How weight of UGCV?
Obviously, it is not particularly difficult to complete a UGCV. In China, you can easily find a lot of shelf products to assemble (except for weapons), and you can even choose a machine dog as a platform -this is too COOL.
However, as an engineering design, it requires several compromises. It is impossible for anything to ask for this and that, so that it will only be born of a scrap iron that is not done well.
Explain my point of view, throw out a brick to attract a jade.
What is the biggest advantage of UGCV? I think there is no man. It sounds like a nonsense, but that's it. With the development of modern war, the cost of soldiers is getting higher and higher. The cost of training a professional soldier plus a country to cultivate an adult is high. This cost is so high that it is reasonable to kill soldiers with ATGM. We can already see such scenes on some battlefields. The best thing for robots is things that are dangerous and difficult. In the battle, I think the most practical role is to drive suicide bomber's truck and become a supporting weapon carrier.
The Syrian war has shown us that the suicide bomber's truck can play a role in damage strongholds. It sounds like attacking from Kamikaze to anti -ship missiles. This will be the cheapest choice if there is no other firepower delivery method.
Supporting weapon carrier vehicles is to imagine that there is a light vehicle that is light than the IFV, do not consider a large number of carrier staff, carry HMG, ATGM, 60mm mortar and its ammunition. The unmanned leopard cat car group is very suitable. If it is long -distance support, you don't have to consider the threat of the fragile sensor on the vehicle. And the loud sound and light that supports weapons can easily attract the attention of the enemy. Especially when ATGM is against the armored unit, the operator may bear a certain psychological pressure until the missile hit. At this time, the benefits brought by inhumration are displayed.
Another advantage is that you don't need to worry about life support logistics and theoretically indefinite on-station time with sleep-mode.
It could also be used for routine patrol duties at much lower costs. It could reduce amount of forward personnel stationed at first line during a prolonged tense stand-off.
They should develop an airlift refueling tank system that could be dropped from Y-20 and even drones and gave ugvs the ability to refuel from it themselves.
Generator stations connected to powerlines that the ugvs can return to recharge themselves, itself guarded by ugvs.
Allows ugvs the ability to relay realtime recon info (SAM sites relocation, etc) to platforms like J-20 and loyal wingman groups.
Each ugv is a node on the network. And China has put emphasis on cloud computing technologies.
In a conflict, pump out expendable ugvs to saturate battlefield with your eyes and ears so that enemy have no place to hide until they are all found and destroyed. Emphases is on-station, detection and network centric value of those ugvs and their supporting cloud computing abilities rather than their individual values of the weapons that they carry.
Seen in this light the importance of the PLA strategic support force is highlighted. It may even become the largest branch of the armed forces in future. China has the production capability, cost is not an issue during war, make the enemies pay out of their asses after you win.
In incidents in near future, you might see ugvs convoys traveling to hot spots and gather points on their own, supported by China's smart transport infrastruture, smart electricity grid, 5g and later system, and networked cloud computing along the way. This is bigger and ties in many fields that China has concurrently worked on throughout the past decades.
It could also be used for routine patrol duties at much lower costs. It could reduce amount of forward personnel stationed at first line during a prolonged tense stand-off.
They should develop an airlift refueling tank system that could be dropped from Y-20 and even drones and gave ugvs the ability to refuel from it themselves.
Generator stations connected to powerlines that the ugvs can return to recharge themselves, itself guarded by ugvs.
Allows ugvs the ability to relay realtime recon info (SAM sites relocation, etc) to platforms like J-20 and loyal wingman groups.
Each ugv is a node on the network. And China has put emphasis on cloud computing technologies.
In a conflict, pump out expendable ugvs to saturate battlefield with your eyes and ears so that enemy have no place to hide until they are all found and destroyed. Emphases is on-station, detection and network centric value of those ugvs and their supporting cloud computing abilities rather than their individual values of the weapons that they carry.
Seen in this light the importance of the PLA strategic support force is highlighted. It may even become the largest branch of the armed forces in future. China has the production capability, cost is not an issue during war, make the enemies pay out of their asses after you win.
In incidents in near future, you might see ugvs convoys traveling to hot spots and gather points on their own, supported by China's smart transport infrastruture, smart electricity grid, 5g and later system, and networked cloud computing along the way. This is bigger and ties in many fields that China has concurrently worked on throughout the past decades.
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That grouping at the end look very suspect, I don't really see how a robot dog can aim consistently without a pivoting gun mount, it's theoretically also doable with sophisticated inverse kinematics equations, but I don't see any complicated movements to that effect in the video.
It's more likely that they set up the target, locked all joints/increase stiffness then fired away.
It a lot less affected by recoil than some suggested. Seems like the gun is vibrating a little but the recoil is no problem for this dog. Also the target seems really close.
Amphibious UGV
Off road UGV
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