Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.

Mr T

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About Donetsk airport, news reports are a mixture of repeating the Reuters claims about the Ukrainian Army retaking most of it, and saying they have tried to reinforce the airport.

And the latest round of peace talks failed. According to Interfax, two separatist leaders failed to turn up. Rossiya 24 blamed Ukraine and said their representative (Leonid Kuchma) failed to turn up.
 
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I would be inclined to take current Ukrainian claims to be still be in the Airport with a large pinch of salt as the reports and footage of the last few days strongly support the NAF claims to have captured it all (and presumably split the all critical highway that runs on its northern boundary).

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just preparing for a pub talk this afternoon :) but I think at the time you were writing this, Ukrainian armored column took it from Andeevka (Авдеевкa) through the Spartak area (defended by "Vostok" Battalion) of Donetsk to the Putilov Bridge Junction, where it got lucky as Separatists' tanks were resupplying ammunition (to use it for "cleaning of the remaining pockets of resistance at Donetsk Airport"), popped three of them ... and arrived at Donetsk Airport (this is acknowledged by "Cassad"
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by the way, "gritting teeth" of debaters on that site now, predicting "Airport Will Become Ukrainian Stalingrad" and stuff like that -- they see Ukrainian videos of "cleaning the Airport" coming soon ...)
 

delft

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Question... why are they fighting so bitterly over an airport that must by now be so heavily damaged as to be practically unuseable?
My speculation:
There are the roads Kiev hopes to use to enter and conquer Donetsk. Think of all the heavy equipment that is to compensate for the lack of capabilities and elan of the the Ukie army.
 

solarz

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Strategic significance
The significance of Donetsk airport, as military professionals explain, lies in the fact this is the only point the Ukrainian forces have under control which is close to Donetsk. The airport is within just one kilometer of residential areas. The airport also covers the circumventing road around Donetsk.

As NSDC Information Center spokesman Andriy Lyssenko said, in case heavy weaponry is removed to 15 kilometers, as is written in the Minsk accords, the separatists will be forced to tow their heavy weaponry to Lenin square in Donetsk, as Donetsk airport will be the starting point.

Former head of the Foreign Intelligence Service Mykola Malomuzh also considers Donetsk airport strategically significant, and he explains why: “The airport gained military and strategic significance taking into account our military priorities. However, on the other hand, we now have military-political significance. The airport became a symbol of courage and resilience of our country. And it is important for the prospects of liberating the territory of Donetsk oblast, which has been occupied by the ‘DNR’ and representatives of the Russian armed forces.”

“The other side really did view this object as a potential military base, aviation base, and the usage of military transport jets would allow them to supply the mercenaries and the Russian armed forces with new weaponry and new personnel and special ops troops on a daily basis, which is currently done by land,” Malomuzh tells Radio Liberty.

According to Malomuzh, the separatist and Russia, willing to control the airport with the prospect of turning it into an air base, would be able to locate helicopters and storm jets there; and this is an entirely different dimention of combat, which would weaken Ukraine significantly.

Malomuzh's comments seem a bit strange. Does the entire "Novorossiyan" region not have a single other airport?
 

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Malomuzh's comments seem a bit strange. Does the entire "Novorossiyan" region not have a single other airport?
lugansk has a more secured airport, but i guess two is always better than one.

Also the new terminal's roof collapsed today, trapped a few cyborgs underneath. things not lookin good for Ukr troops there, the violence seems more likely to escalate than to peter out.
 

solarz

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Interestingly, the threat of Russia stopping gas delivery to Ukraine never materialized, despite the fact that such a move would have crippled the Kiev regime's economy.

This is perhaps the most perplexing part of Russia's strategy. That they are supporting the Novorossiyan rebels is without question, but they do not seem to be willing to make the moves that would ensure the rebels' victory.
 
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