Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.

Dannhill

Junior Member
More screws tightening. Symbolic only.

EU Council approves new sanctions against self-proclaimed republics in E. Ukraine
The EU Council on Friday approved the introduction of new sanctions against 13 representatives of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics in eastern Ukraine and five organizations, TASS said. The names of the new targets to be added to the list of those subject to asset freezes and travel bans will be published on Saturday. The Committee of Permanent Representatives in the EU agreed on November 27 the list of 18 entities and representatives of the republics that would be subject to sanctions.

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Dannhill

Junior Member
US to supply Hummer to Ukraine forces.

Ukraine received first batch of battlefield radar. Expect 20 sets to be supplied.

Translated by Google:

"Hammer" FOR POROSHENKO Kiev agreed with US Vice President Joe Biden to increase the supply of US non-lethal military equipment. Ukrainian armed forces will have the famous army "Hammer" from the Pentagon inventory. No deliveries or their value, however, are still unknown. The war machine, which is called "Humvee" (an abbreviation of the phrase "highly mobile multipurpose wheeled vehicle") - this lightly armored army jeep terrain. Available since 1984 and received its baptism of fire during the US invasion of Panama in 1989.

Since then, the car has repeatedly upgraded. The average price of "Humvee" with a set of arms is $ 140 thousand. According to the newspaper USA Today, four years later, "Humvee" in US troops will begin to replace the new tactical armored vehicles that have better protection and maneuverability. Currently, the United States is willing to sell "Humvee" to its partners in the Middle East. In 2008, during the armed conflict in South Ossetia, Russian troops captured in battle with the Georgian army five armored vehicles of this type.

The representative of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko said that Ukraine has already received the first batch of lung radar to determine the coordinates mortar positions. In total, according to him, is expected to supply 20 such sets. Gazeta.ru, 11.28.2014, the
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.. Positioning for VC: Sovinformburo group Novorossia

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For some time I've been trying to follow fights between Separatists (http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/crisis-ukraine-96-6939.html#post309747) ...

today the interview appeared (
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) with the Commander of the Main Intelligence Directorate of
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who for example
- says this is the ninth war he fights in (the first was
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, mentions
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,
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, and
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)
- blames
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and insinuates
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was involved in like racketeering in Donetsk recently
- says he feeds and dresses all the members of his Unit "at his own expense" (about one thousand people -- mentions 14 women), which costs him between 250 and 300 thousands US$ a month (but says they didn't get paid for the last two months)
P.S. The interview is at the site of "Cassad", too:
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delft

Brigadier
From RT.com:
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Mother of German MH17 crash victim sues Ukraine in EU court

Published time: November 30, 2014 09:04

The mother of a victim killed in the Malaysian plane crash in eastern Ukraine has started legal proceedings to sue the Ukrainian authorities in the European Court of Human Rights, demanding about $1 million for pain and suffering.

The mother of “Olga L.”, a German citizen, submitted her case against Ukraine to the European Court of Human Rights last week. She is demanding €800,000 (roughly $1 million) for negligent homicide, reports the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

The woman insists that Ukrainian authorities should have shut the country’s airspace to civilian flights due to the heavy fighting between Kiev troops and militias in the country’s east.

She argues the Kiev government failed to do this because they didn’t want to lose out on overflight fees. According to Bild, around the time of the disaster about 700 flights were crossing Ukrainian territory daily, accruing several millions of euros in revenue a month.

The victim’s mother is being represented in court by Elmar Giemulla, a professor of aviation law. Giemulla is also acting for other German families of MH17 victims, who announced in September that they are also planning to sue Kiev in court.

"Each state is responsible for the security of its air space," Giemulla said in September. "If it is not able to do so temporarily, it must close its air space. As that did not happen, Ukraine is liable for the damage."

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was apparently shot down on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur over eastern Ukraine on July 17. Four German citizens were among the 298 victims of the plane crash.

A preliminary report into the disaster delivered by Dutch investigators on September 9 said that the MH17 crash was a result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-energy objects striking the Boeing from the outside.

However, in November the Dutch government refused to reveal details of a secret pact between members of the Joint Investigation Team (the Netherlands, Belgium, Australia and Ukraine) examining the downed Flight MH17. If the participants, including Ukraine, do not want information to be released, it will be kept secret.

Earlier, a number of Western countries blamed Russia for the tragedy, which they said was caused by a surface-to-air missile launched by rebel forces in eastern Ukraine with help from Moscow.

Russia, which denies such allegations, expressed some irritation with the lack of new evidence presented in the report. Moscow suggested the UN should appoint a special representative to monitor the investigation into the shooting-down of flight MH17.

Moscow made radar surveillance data of the incident public, arguing it pointed to the possibility that the Ukrainian side downed the Malaysian plane.
 

Dannhill

Junior Member
Malaysia should just file a formal complaint at the UN General Assembly where veto powers cannot block the resolution for an open and independent investigation. Over here in South East Asia, the Malaysian govt is getting a lot of flak from their anti-govt bloc for incompetence over both MH370 and MH17, which I feel to be very unfair knowing that the govt was deliberately kept out of the information loop.

Note that the Malaysian govt have told their people they were pressured by an unnamed superpower.

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This has got to be the only aircrash investigation where the investigating govts had made accusations prior to the start of the investigations against another country for the crash and still appointed themselves as the official investigator. And to date, have continued to make the same accusations.
In a court of law that would have disqualified them as judge or jury.
And add that highly irregular "secret agreement" which is not secret anymore.

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Dannhill

Junior Member
Confirmed no ammo nor Russian paratroopers hiding in the trucks.

Russia delivers more aid to eastern Ukraine
Russia has delivered its eighth humanitarian aid convoy to war-torn eastern Ukraine, the emergencies ministry reported. Donetsk received over 800 tons of aid while Lugansk got 400 tons. The deliveries were made by 100 trucks. Unlike the previous shipments, this one was inspected by the Ukrainian customs service before crossing the border. Previously, Kiev refused official inspections and stalled aid deliveries to the rebel areas.

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And no Russian tanks either.

No Russian tanks crossed into Ukraine, OSCE says
The OSCE has not picked up on any Russian tank movement across the border into Ukraine, its chief in the region Paul Picard told Polskie Radio. The allegations have been made by the Ukrainian side on November 28. Picard also added that lately there have increasingly been people in military uniform crossing the border.
 

Dannhill

Junior Member
Cassad gives a number on total dead on Kiev side. Interesting comment about figures including Polish private mercenary company and US Academi/Greystone.

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According to the Interregional Public Fund for the Promotion of strategic security numerical losses amount to 20,914 troops. This death toll Ukrainian military from 3 April to 27 November this year.
According to some reports, the bodies of those killed in the fighting were exported in Dnepropetrovsk and destroyed the local crematorium or were buried at the place of execution. Many of the victims are still listed as missing.

Among the dead - about 3,450 fighters "Right sector" as well as 30 special battalions of mercenaries "Dnepr", "Azov" and "Aydar", about 11 715 soldiers, mostly - from the 25th Dnepropetrovsk Airborne Brigade, Zhytomyr 95th airmobile brigade, the 24th Motorized Brigade of the Lviv region, the 79th airmobile brigade from Nikolaev, 51 Mechanised Brigade of the Vladimir-Volyn (no longer exists) 24th Mechanized Brigade of the city of Lviv region Yavoriv, ​​72th Mechanized Brigade of the White Church, Kremenchug Brigade General Intelligence Ukrainian Defense Ministry and other departments of the Ukrainian army, and about 4,141 employees from the Ministry of Internal Affairs natsgvardeytsev, about 379 employees of the Security Service of Ukraine , 243 people from the ranks of the State Border Service, 1,781 people from other armed forces and 88 Ukrainian CIA, FBI, and Special Forces Defense Intelligence Agency.

In addition, 630 foreign mercenaries from among the Polish private military company «ASBS Othago», American Asademi and her " Daughter »Greystone Limited, Canada, Germany, Great Britain, Lithuania, Estonia, Italy, Sweden, Turkey, Czech Republic, Finland, African, Arab and other countries have been killed in battles in the Donets Basin and the surrounding areas.
Injuring 49,673 people. If we believe the data leakage from the closed meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, the losses were 12,000 killed, 19,000 wounded, and nearly five thousand missing.
Some of this information is confirmed by hackers "CyberBerkut." captured, deserted or missing lost about nine thousand people. However, the latter category is the most questions, since it can get not only the military, sided with the breakaway republics, but also the dead, who for various reasons were not included in the list of losses. PS.
But more recently published our figures in the 14-16 thousand. Killed called exaggerated, but in November the actual order of the losses became very obvious. In this regard, UN data about the total loss of 3-4 thousand. Man look pathetic mockery of those tens of thousands killed (soldiers junta militia and civilians) who formed the earth Donbass.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
The UN general assembly cant do anything It has no teeth. the "Vote" would be all pageantry. Until a actual investigation can be held Every thing relating to suing over the Malaysia airlines flight is all bark and bluster. no bite. No court of law can reasonably Rule on guilt.
 
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Dannhill

Junior Member
It's the only avenue opened to the Malaysian govt to air their grievances to let the whole world know what is happening, without it being blocked by powers holding veto in the Security Council. The govt is facing a lot of internal social stress and the 2 crashes are being held, unfairly imo, against them.

Failing to do so is tacit acceptance of the situation.

BTW, you misread my statement on court. I meant that no judge or jury that made very public statements on the case pretrial will be allowed to preside or form the jury over the case itself since they have expressed in public their very prejudices beforehand.
 
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