Type 95 Assault Rifle II

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If it is real (and it does, but hey we've been fooled before!), I feel it won't be issued as the "new" assault rifle replacing Type 95 unfortunately. I think Type 95-1 has already proven satisfactory and the redesign of the charging handle/removal of carrying handle+the fact type 95-1 has already been so extensively trialed, makes me think this "modular" version will not be mass issued (not to mention the fact there are already a dedicated optics and accessories designed for the type 95-1).

but we've seen no units or soldiers armed with the 95-1 as of yet... so who knows?
 
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plawolf said:
Looks real enough to me.

The lighting and shadows are all consistent.

The SCAR actually has a different vent layout (3 longer, covered holes compared to the 6 shorter, exposed holes here), in addition to having a charging handle which is absent here.

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Also look at the shadows on the walls. That sort of stuff is extremely hard to PS, and far harder to make look convincing. Notice that the bottom of the rifle has P-rail for accessories. If they were going to put rails on at all, it seems logical that they put them on top as well, which is far more common and useful.

The top looks like a SCAR because they just copied the SCAR's iron sights design. Besides that, they just changed a few pieces of the casing. It's hardly cutting edge stuff. Hell, I can modified a Type 95 to look like that if given the right tools.

The trigger guard is of the new Type95G that we have seen, and it is definitely not a Type97 that someone bought and tweaked themselves.

Looks real enough to me, so the only question remaining for me is - is this a PAP/SWAT mod or a PLA mod?
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Then it's a carefully made PS, you'd be amazed how much free time people can squeeze out to fool around with...it's not just the iron sight I'm talking about, look at the gas system assembly below the front sight, by what's on the pic it's an exact match - color difference can be done with PS.

Sure the manufacturer can try to produce a prototype of sort (the sights and even the SCAR -yeah I know the AEG replica version of them - China can make them in toy factories, a real weapon manufacturer certainly can), but until I see that thing at the exhibition booth in the biannual defense exhibition in Beijing, I ain't convince a bit. That's that.
 
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There's no indication it's a PS. Sure quality of PS only gets better these days, but that's no reason to dismiss any slightly surprising development as fabrication.

And there's been quite a few Type 95 accessories produced, we don't necessarily have to see it at an exhibition to prove it's real. Just another picture or two of it from different angles, preferably in the hands of a PAP or PLA soldier can prove it.

Btw type 05 SMG underwent a similar transformation for the military and police variants, so it's not out of the world for both to be produced simultaneously i suppose.

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TerraN_EmpirE

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The Magazine Also Caught my eye It looks ( I am not sure I Want too say Wrong) different almost like a Pmag. And the Fore grip looks like a grip pod but it's so small ( posibly indicating a PS)
 
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TerraN_EmpirE said:
The Magazine Also Caught my eye It looks ( I am not sure I Want too say Wrong) different almost like a Pmag. And the Fore grip looks like a grip pod but it's so small ( posibly indicating a PS)
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It's a different magazine alright, like an MP-5 type round magazine. Notice the safety switch on the handle grip?
 
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MwRYum said:
Then it's a carefully made PS, you'd be amazed how much free time people can squeeze out to fool around with...it's not just the iron sight I'm talking about, look at the gas system assembly below the front sight, by what's on the pic it's an exact match - color difference can be done with PS.

Sure the manufacturer can try to produce a prototype of sort (the sights and even the SCAR -yeah I know the AEG replica version of them - China can make them in toy factories, a real weapon manufacturer certainly can), but until I see that thing at the exhibition booth in the biannual defense exhibition in Beijing, I ain't convince a bit. That's that.
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Well I'm not seeing any signs that the image has been tampered with. Have you actually got anything solid you can point to to suggest that the gun isn't real other than your insistence on only believing it's real after seeing it at an expo?

Because there are plenty of things that are not shown at any expos but are perfectly real. A few examples.

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
The Magazine Also Caught my eye It looks ( I am not sure I Want too say Wrong) different almost like a Pmag. And the Fore grip looks like a grip pod but it's so small ( posibly indicating a PS)
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Are you talking about the SMG pics I posted? Because they are in service with PLA and PAP in those exact configurations.

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Oh nvm you're talking about the type 95, lol ..
 
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plawolf said:
Well I'm not seeing any signs that the image has been tampered with. Have you actually got anything solid you can point to to suggest that the gun isn't real other than your insistence on only believing it's real after seeing it at an expo?

Because there are plenty of things that are not shown at any expos but are perfectly real. A few examples.

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That's because those in your pic are aftermarket add-on kit, target customers are local police SWAT / PAP outfits that has the budget for stuff like that and without the strict restriction imposed on the PLA regular outfit...though that said, attachment kits witnessed with HK garrison on exercise could've been on trial; or those seen with Somalia expedition were thanks to certain level of blessing from the top (clamp-style torchlight attachment, gillie suit, etc).

With just one picture, there's simply not enough material to prove it to be real deal, we need more material.
 
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MwRYum said:
That's because those in your pic are aftermarket add-on kit, target customers are local police SWAT / PAP outfits that has the budget for stuff like that and without the strict restriction imposed on the PLA regular outfit...though that said, attachment kits witnessed with HK garrison on exercise could've been on trial; or those seen with Somalia expedition were thanks to certain level of blessing from the top (clamp-style torchlight attachment, gillie suit, etc).

With just one picture, there's simply not enough material to prove it to be real deal, we need more material.
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I agree, but your previous assertion that it was a PS, even when there was nothing which pointed to it, is flawed and just because it wasn't shown at an expo (yet) doesn't mean it's not real.

Although folks on CDF are saying it's a PS, and the lack of other photos and the complexity of such a modification makes me think this may not be real.
 
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