Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers


xyqq

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052D 161 Hohhot firing its main-gun on June 4, 2020 (butterfly smoke shape due to the muzzle brake):
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Compared with 055 101 Nanchang's main-gun firing without a muzzle brake:
101-gun-firing1.jpg
 

Tetrach

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Quick question. Do we know the cost of the type 346 radar on the type 52D ? I heard it represented 1/4 of the price of the entire vessel, but I've never seen the price of the actual radar
 

Bhurki

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Quick question. Do we know the cost of the type 346 radar on the type 52D ? I heard it represented 1/4 of the price of the entire vessel, but I've never seen the price of the actual radar
Got to be atleast $60-80M per set(all 4 faces), going by US spy 1 numbers and accounting for EoS and ppp.
 

Tam

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Quick question. Do we know the cost of the type 346 radar on the type 52D ? I heard it represented 1/4 of the price of the entire vessel, but I've never seen the price of the actual radar
Depends. Let's assume we take the costs here of an AESA module here.

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This is civilian or commercial grade modules. Military grade is expected to be higher.

Let's assume each face is about 5,000 to 6,000 elements. Let's take the low ball figure of 5,000 elements per face.

If each element is $5,000 for 25,000 elements for all four faces, that would $125,000 for a low ball estimate for the arrays alone, not counting the back end, installation costs and so on.
 

Bhurki

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Depends. Let's assume we take the costs here of an AESA module here.

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This is civilian or commercial grade modules. Military grade is expected to be higher.

Let's assume each face is about 5,000 to 6,000 elements. Let's take the low ball figure of 5,000 elements per face.

If each element is $5,000 for 25,000 elements for all four faces, that would $125,000 for a low ball estimate for the arrays alone, not counting the back end, installation costs and so on.
You are really underestimating the chinese economies of scale..
$125M gets you a An/spy1D. (without back end and integration costs)
 

Tam

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You are really underestimating the chinese economies of scale..
$125M gets you a An/spy1D. (without back end and integration costs)
In 2020 dollars? Doubt that. Besides, I'm basing this off from a Chinese quoted price for a TR module, even though its civilian grade, possibly for a radar of civilian or commercial use. Please check the link.

If 1/4th of the ship is radar alone, then $125 million means a $500 million ship. I always assume a 052D is somewhere between $500 to $1 billion, and so I think about $200 million for the radar alone is likely.
 
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