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Puss in Boots

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This is an analysis video from four years ago with over 200 million views. Ray Dalio made predictions about the future of the United States from a Western perspective, and they were clearly not optimistic. Four years later, it's clear whether the situation in the US is worsening or improving, and many current events even completely confirm these predictions. You may have doubts about the speed of the US decline, but the downward trend is undeniable.
To avoid accelerating this decline, the wisest choice for the US now is to avoid any direct conflict with China, and Trump's choice is undoubtedly correct. Capitalism inherently possesses exploitative characteristics; if it cannot continuously exploit others, its decline is inevitable. Therefore, the US has gradually shifted from contracting defense with its allies to collecting protection fees from them. When even protection fees can no longer satisfy the US's appetite, killing the goose that lays the golden eggs is not necessarily a bad option. This is what the current US government under Trump is doing, and I believe the US will continue to do so even after Trump leaves office.
 

4Tran

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To avoid accelerating this decline, the wisest choice for the US now is to avoid any direct conflict with China, and Trump's choice is undoubtedly correct. Capitalism inherently possesses exploitative characteristics; if it cannot continuously exploit others, its decline is inevitable. Therefore, the US has gradually shifted from contracting defense with its allies to collecting protection fees from them. When even protection fees can no longer satisfy the US's appetite, killing the goose that lays the golden eggs is not necessarily a bad option. This is what the current US government under Trump is doing, and I believe the US will continue to do so even after Trump leaves office.
The United States is afflicted with a lot of forms of malaise - from the failure of the social contract to the K-shaped economy to the sheer inability of the government to get anything done. There are no major actors in the US who are willing to fix any of these problems so the only thing that they can do is to blame someone else for them. As things stand, anti-China rhetoric is about the only thing that American politicians can agree upon so we're bound to see a lot more of it once Trump is gone.

The good news is that I think that the US is starting to realize that a military confrontation with China is a terrible idea. So the US will go back to their old tricks of building alliances to take on China diplomatically and economically; basically the same stuff we saw during the Obama and Biden administrations. The difference is that China is actually ready to fight back toe to toe, and the US has squandered much of its reputation.
 

Puss in Boots

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The good news is that I think that the US is starting to realize that a military confrontation with China is a terrible idea. So the US will go back to their old tricks of building alliances to take on China diplomatically and economically; basically the same stuff we saw during the Obama and Biden administrations. The difference is that China is actually ready to fight back toe to toe, and the US has squandered much of its reputation.
It's the economy
Building a US-led alliance to counter China would require enormous resources, and the US's looming massive national debt means this idea will ultimately remain just a theoretical concept. If these allies were willing to purchase large amounts of long-term, interest-free US Treasury bonds, I believe the US would be happy to build such an anti-China alliance. However, the funds available from Japan and Taiwan alone are far from sufficient, so the US will likely choose to squeeze more allies to fill the gap.
 

plawolf

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Ahahaha…….well, I don’t just like using the term NEVER(since nothing is absolute in life) , so I tend to be conservative in my predictions. So if I had to be frank I will say the probability is so low to almost insignificant to non existant. I think 98% of countries around the world have a higher probability to seizing to exist as a country we know today than the US let’s just put it like that . LMAO

I don’t think that 98% figure you pulled out of the air provides as much assurance as you seem to think. If you look back through human history, countries and empires rise and fall and cease to exist far more frequently and consistently than you seem to think.

From a full human history POV, 98% failure rate for nations is pretty much unheard of. In fact, I would say given a long enough timeframe, the mortality rate of nations is basically 100%. Even China has failed and collapsed many many times in its long history. The true test of a civilisation is not if it can buck this trend and never suffer a fall, but rather whether it has the right stuff to pull itself back together again afterwards and rise from the ashes, as only a small handful of civilisation have thus far managed.


I just find it funny that when people don’t like a country, they seem to bring out all their wishful thinking and project is into reality . lol. Abit similar to those who predict a collapse of China as well( could happen , since as I said nothing is impossible , but probability is so low to non existent ).

That’s a false equivalence. All the China collapse nonsense flies in the face of objective reality, whereas America’s massive and accelerating decline is obvious for all to see.

What more, America is treading a lot the same ground failing Chinese dynasties went through in their final years. Obviously there is a lot of tongue in cheek about the meme of America’s pending collapse, but much of it is actually rooted in observable objective facts and historical parallels.

What more, while China-collapse is basically just a fantasy wet dream for American elites and their useful idiots, China has far more cards to play and levers to pull to actually facilitate America’s collapse if it chooses to do so.

While China loves to portray itself as the cute and cuddly and harmless panda bear, it would not have survived until today without the necessary ruthless streak in its racial-national DNA to see off threats once and for all where necessary. So whether America ceases to exist or not is not really entirely in America’s hands to determine.
 
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