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Chevalier

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MAGA appears to have Roman notions of homosexuality in that they are more outraged that Epstein alleges trump fellated bill Clinton as opposed to the other way around, this is similar to the outrage where Caesar was the alleged receiving end of the homosexual advances made by the king of Bithynia.
 

RoastGooseHKer

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Even if US was willing to go for such an arrangement (lol, lmao even), it would never last. A balance of power is only sustainable so long as the powers remain balanced in whatever original configuration was setup. But the whole problem for the US is that Chinese power keeps rising. The Concert of Vienna lasted as long as it did (which wasn't that long) because you had multiple roughly equal powers all jockeying with each other. A bipolar configuration is far less stable and far more zero-sum.
I would argued that the Unification of Germany and the Franco-Prussian War of 1871 effectively killed the Concert of Vienna because both France (the continental status quo power) and Britain (the maritime status quo power) refused to give the unified Germany its proper place in the then international system. That led to the tragedy of WWI. So the problem for China that it faces the same old problems Kaiser’s Germany faced prior to WWI. However such a Great War may not be favourable to China since it is surrounded by powerful maritime powers AND continental powers bent on cutting off China’s trade routes. China itself today is a blend of maritime and continental power. It is a continental power because it has vast strategic depths like the old third-line along with a fully domestic defence industrial base. But it is also a maritime power because it increasingly relies on maritime trade routes to import raw materials and export of goods, forcing Beijing to have no choice but to spend vast sums on PLAN buildup (like Germany’s high seas fleet).
 

JJD1803

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I've been in an Uber driven by a white middle-aged male Trump supporter before. They really see him as "their" leader. For a lot of them, it's because their life isn't good and he has sold himself as their last and/or best hope. For others, it's because they are racist. And yet for others, it's because they did not understand what the likely economic impact of his policies would be. And likely refused to accept it could possibly go that way. In most cases his policies harmed them directly and they refuse to believe it. Often times the individual in question fits some or all of these slots at once. It's a cult of the desperate, stupid, and/or hateful. Not good people. And most of them are snowflakes. They believe they're superior and just shut down or lash out when there is any indication otherwise. Facts don't matter to these people. It's all about what they feel and what they believe. Denial is their biggest coping tool by far. And yet some of them are also fatalist. Saying things like all empires rise and fall, and it's just time for this one to fall. Meanwhile the top 5% are living pretty good. And the top 1% are really living well.
Trump supporters are basically like toddlers. They don’t care about facts,they get easily triggered when they see non whites or immigrants succeed, they live in a fantasy world on how economics or how diplomacy works. When you confront them they simply freak out and get angry. They are stupid and incompetent as their dear leader. Instead of blaming the corrupt pedophilic Zionist oligarch class for why the middle class is collapsing they blame immigrants and non whites.
 

AndrewS

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I would argued that the Unification of Germany and the Franco-Prussian War of 1871 effectively killed the Concert of Vienna because both France (the continental status quo power) and Britain (the maritime status quo power) refused to give the unified Germany its proper place in the then international system. That led to the tragedy of WWI. So the problem for China that it faces the same old problems Kaiser’s Germany faced prior to WWI. However such a Great War may not be favourable to China since it is surrounded by powerful maritime powers AND continental powers bent on cutting off China’s trade routes. China itself today is a blend of maritime and continental power. It is a continental power because it has vast strategic depths like the old third-line along with a fully domestic defence industrial base. But it is also a maritime power because it increasingly relies on maritime trade routes to import raw materials and export of goods, forcing Beijing to have no choice but to spend vast sums on PLAN buildup (like Germany’s high seas fleet).

I don't see how China is surrounded by continental powers bent on cutting off China.
No matter what happens - Russia, the Central Asian states, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Myanmar, Pakistan - would all want to continue trading with China.

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Imperial Germany faced land powers (Russia+France) which were significantly larger and more powerful than Germany.
And as has been demonstrated previously, it is possible to conquer and occupy Germany.

In comparison, China's land borders are secure. That comes from China's much larger population, economy, industrial and military, combined with the terrain.

And no neighbouring country realistically thinks they can conquer and occupy even a fraction of China.


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I also don't see China being surrounded by powerful maritime powers.

Today, the Chinese Navy has more than 2x the combat power of the Japanese Navy.
And the Chinese Navy continues to add a Japan-sized Navy every 4 years or so.

The other navies in Asia barely register.
So it's really only the US Navy which is the challenge, but only a fraction of the US Navy is deployed in Asia.

In comparison, the Imperial German Navy peaked at half the size of the WW1 Royal Navy, which was based in the UK, only a short distance away.

Plus the German naval shipbuilding rate never surpassed the British, who responded with even more naval shipbuilding.
In comparison, the situation today is China at twice the naval shipbuilding rate of the US.
 
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CMP

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I don't see how China is surrounded by continental powers bent on cutting off China.
No matter what happens - Russia, the Central Asian states, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Myanmar, Pakistan - would all want to continue trading with China.

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Imperial Germany faced land powers (Russia+France) which were significantly larger and more powerful than Germany.
And as has been demonstrated previously, it is possible to conquer and occupy Germany.

In comparison, China's land borders are secure. That comes from China's much larger population, economy, industrial and military, combined with the terrain.

No neighbouring country realistically thinks they can conquer and occupy even a fraction of China.


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I also don't see China being surrounded by powerful maritime powers.

Today, the Chinese Navy has more than 2x the combat power of the Japanese Navy.
And the Chinese Navy continues to add a Japan-sized Navy every 4 years or so.

The other navies in Asia barely register.
So it's really only the US Navy which is the challenge, but only a fraction of the US Navy is deployed in Asia.

In comparison, the Imperial German Navy peaked at half the size of the WW1 Royal Navy, which is based in the UK, only a short distance away.

Plus the German naval shipbuilding rate never surpassed the British, who responded with even more naval shipbuilding.
In comparison, the situation today is China at twice the naval shipbuilding rate of the US.
Nah bro. You wrong. The self-proclaimed HKer thinks India is going to contain and cut off China's supply lines from across the Himalayas using their 10th Gen Vedik stealth fighters and hypersonic cow piss fueled missiles.
 

siegecrossbow

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MAGA appears to have Roman notions of homosexuality in that they are more outraged that Epstein alleges trump fellated bill Clinton as opposed to the other way around, this is similar to the outrage where Caesar was the alleged receiving end of the homosexual advances made by the king of Bithynia.
Is this the real reason why Hilary hates Trump so much?
 

tamsen_ikard

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I would argued that the Unification of Germany and the Franco-Prussian War of 1871 effectively killed the Concert of Vienna because both France (the continental status quo power) and Britain (the maritime status quo power) refused to give the unified Germany its proper place in the then international system. That led to the tragedy of WWI. So the problem for China that it faces the same old problems Kaiser’s Germany faced prior to WWI. However such a Great War may not be favourable to China since it is surrounded by powerful maritime powers AND continental powers bent on cutting off China’s trade routes. China itself today is a blend of maritime and continental power. It is a continental power because it has vast strategic depths like the old third-line along with a fully domestic defence industrial base. But it is also a maritime power because it increasingly relies on maritime trade routes to import raw materials and export of goods, forcing Beijing to have no choice but to spend vast sums on PLAN buildup (like Germany’s high seas fleet).
Vast Sums? China barely spend 1.2% of GDP officially on the military. China is still mainly running on easy mode when it comes to military. If China really gets serious about the military. They will be producing 2-300 fighter jets per year. atleast 200 destroyers will be in the navy.
 
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