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JJD1803

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Pentagon turmoil deepens: Top Hegseth aide leaves post

“There is a complete meltdown in the building,” one official said.

I honestly can't tell how credible some of these news are anymore, because there's just so much. And it's all so surreal.
Imagine this Pentagon in chaos while trying to fight a high intensity war against Iran? It will be a fiasco like no other. That’s why I say a US-Iran war would be similar to the Russo-Japan war. The US being like the Russians arrogant and incompetent underestimating the other side.
 

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Pentagon turmoil deepens: Top Hegseth aide leaves post

“There is a complete meltdown in the building,” one official said.

I honestly can't tell how credible some of these news are anymore, because there's just so much. And it's all so surreal.
Colin Carroll's firing would be the man's 2nd time from 2 different administrations. He was fired from his previous stint at Joint AI Center where he served as then Chief Operating Officer from what's been said as a terrible command climate he fostered. And now getting fired from what's alleged to be from the supposed leak regarding Elon Musk's China war plan briefing. I don't know if the firings of the mentioned individuals were about that particular issue as it could be related to something more sensitive and deeper issue than what the public is being fed.
 

siegecrossbow

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Any minute now, the godless communist Chinese will be calling and surrendering to our illustrious leader, the first of his name, soon-to-be President-for-Life, savior of America™, and preserver of Freedom® and Liberty®, Donald J. Trump! :cool:

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Based on my extensive knowledge of 80s romcom a good fucking is usually what it takes for them to come to their senses.
 

Michael90

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Chinese suppliers generally earn low profit margin. My ex-employer, a company owned by Canadian, export from Shenzhen, earned 7% profit by creative accounting to minimise paying tax in China, then they sold upto 100% profit to other US retailers. The final retail price was 300% to 400% of the export price from China.

Chinese owned China factories generally only made around 10-15% proft due to local competition and price pressure from foreign buyers/merchandisers who deal direct with the factories on behalf of the importers.

Therefore if you cut off the middlemen in US, go direct to China to do your own sourcing, the cost saving is huge.
Is it a good thing that Chinese companies make such tiny profits compared to their peers gloablly?
 

AssassinsMace

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The Trumptards, Repanicans, and Republican'ts seem to have gotten their talking points. They're telling everyone the US can wait it out longer than China then China will come begging for a deal. They've been throwing that out there since Trump's first term when China's trade surplus kept growing despite his trade war claiming it was because US retailers where stocking up but then after that China would crash. MAGAt farmers said they were waiting for Chinese to starve and then they'll come begging to the US back then like they're still saying right now. The latest I've heard because of the Boeing ban was Airbus has backorders so China can't replace Boeing with Airbus that easily and China's domestic airliner is dependent on US parts. I recall when the C919 was being developed remember Obama was whining that he was going to lodge a WTO complaint to stop China in developing it and the US wasn't benefiting because it had no foreign parts. China bought American parts just to get the US off its back then. With all the orders Airbus will be getting full of new jobs for Europe, they aren't going to increase capacity especially when they need the money the US is denying them now? Then China works quick for things they need. The US didn't see how China was so well insulated from US tariff war just like they're not seeing China already accounting for no more Boeing. They're basically admitting that Boeing airliners will breakdown and become useless for China before they can find replacements.

The US wouldn't be demanding China beg for negotiations with Trump if they were in the power position. Their arrogance still on wishful thinking mode. They have to resort to fake reports of rioting in China over losing the US market. They're worried because you see tradition including conservative sources in the US media that are anti-China saying China is winning over Trump. Still waiting for China to collapse day one of Trump's trade war on China during his first term.
 

lcloo

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Is it a good thing that Chinese companies make such tiny profits compared to their peers gloablly?
The foreign buyer aka merchandisers who act as the representative of the buyers in foreign countries has greater say over the Chinese factory as most of the time it was a buyers' market.

The buyers generally give the product design, specs and targeted cost to the manufacturers. They are generally based in Hong Kong and Ninbo/ Yiwu and are very experience dealing with Chinese factories. With many Chinese factories to choose from, the buyers usually can get their targeted cost price with the quality they demanded. (The cheap Chinese goods' prices are usually the result of buyers' specified prices).

Example, our factory actually received some "One Dollar" products from overseas, they gave us product specs and packaging design, and they demanded the ex-factory cost should be less than 30 cent. If we can't do that, they will just look for another factory.

China ex-factory cost usually are cheap even compared with other emerging countries like Thailand or Malaysia, the supply chain is what matters in costing.
 

MortyandRick

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Is it a good thing that Chinese companies make such tiny profits compared to their peers gloablly?
There are no peers. Other factories likely could not survive against chinese competition. They cannot make the same volume at the same price as the Chinese factories so there is no comparison except against other Chinese factories.

That's why china wants to advance to high-tech products, better margins.

At the high end, companies such as DJI, Huawei, Xiaomi, Haier, TCL etc, can get similar or even profit margins against their peers due to lower chinese supply chain.
 

iewgnem

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Is it a good thing that Chinese companies make such tiny profits compared to their peers gloablly?
Chinese exporters dont actually run low margins on export, unless they also own the overseas distribution which is basically the same thing as high margins overall. If anything high export margins usually subsidize low domestic prices.

Its simple supply and demand, Chinese companies usually have far more domestic competition than overseas, they cant get away with high margins domestically, but overseas they can charge anything up to what foreign competitors charge. The only time export prices get supressed is if multiple Chinese exporters start competing overseas.

Case in point we used to order CNC parts from Rapid Direct, obviously very cheap compared to local, but it was still 10x more expensive than ordering local from Shenzhen. Only after JLCCNC came along and started offering Shenzhen prices overseas did Rapid Direct start cutting prices to compete.

Another example is TMotor, they're notorious for being expensive compared to buying motors in China, but its still popular because theres no overseas competition.

Obviously Chinese EVs are another well known example, BYD sells at 2x to 3x overseas compared to domestic, they run some of the highest margins in the industry. Same is true for DJI of course.

So no Chinese companies dont actually run low margins when exporting, chances are they actually run higher margins than overseas competitors, people only think they have low margins because they compare Chinese prices with overseas production cost. When there are no competition, theres no reason to run low margins
 
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