Trump 2.0 official thread

tygyg1111

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manqiangrexue said:
I've seen this strategy before. One Korean technique for chasing skirt is that if guy likes a girl and she hasn't publically rejected him, he will spread rumors that they have a secret relationship so that other suitors are put off and mutual friends start treating them as if they were a couple. When it works, it's because the woman basically got peer-pressured into accepting it.
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China is the guy that sees a girl as taken only if he knows and likes the guy. And China definitely doesn't like this guy
 
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RoastGooseHKer

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sndef888 said:
This sounds like too many concessions by China in exchange for not much. Just a 10% decrease in tariffs and removing the new entity list affiliated companies rule (or is there anything else I'm missing?)
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Also, the suspension of export control of gallium and other clearly military use components is a majour concession. Gallium is used in AESA radars and other military electronics. The U.S. is pretty good with GaH technologies but depends on China for critical inputs. This concession is akin to the U.S. allowing Nvidia chips for PLA use.
 
siegecrossbow

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sndef888 said:
This sounds like too many concessions by China in exchange for not much. Just a 10% decrease in tariffs and removing the new entity list affiliated companies rule (or is there anything else I'm missing?)

On the other hand, the change in rhetoric is much welcomed. Especially the G2 label. Gives China more time to bide its time.
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You are seriously going to take the winologists in chief at face value???

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Dante80

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My understanding is that the White House readout is indeed factual.

They are omitting stuff, forgetting time limits, not stating conditionals or rhetorically dressing some terms for internal consumption.

But there are no lies or mistakes. The Chinese readout does the exact same, albeit with an opposite spin.



  • China will suspend the global implementation of the expansive new export controls on rare earths and related measures that it announced on October 9, 2025.
  • China will issue general licenses valid for exports of rare earths, gallium, germanium, antimony, and graphite for the benefit of U.S. end users and their suppliers around the world. The general license means the de facto removal of controls China imposed in April 2025 and October 2022.
  • China will take significant measures to end the flow of fentanyl to the United States. Specifically, China will stop the shipment of certain designated chemicals to North America and strictly control exports of certain other chemicals to all destinations in the world.
  • China will suspend all of the retaliatory tariffs that it has announced since March 4, 2025. This includes tariffs on a vast swath of U.S. agricultural products: chicken, wheat, corn, cotton, sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, aquatic products, fruits, vegetables, and dairy products.
  • China will suspend or remove all of the retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since March 4, 2025, including China’s listing of certain American companies on its end user and unreliable entity lists.
  • China will purchase at least 12 million metric tons (MMT) of U.S. soybeans during the last two months of 2025 and also purchase at least 25 MMT of U.S. soybeans in each of 2026, 2027, and 2028. Additionally, China will resume purchases of U.S. sorghum and hardwood logs.
  • China will take appropriate measures to ensure the resumption of trade from Nexperia’s facilities in China, allowing production of critical legacy chips to flow to the rest of the world.
  • China will remove measures it took in retaliation for the U.S.’s announcement of a Section 301 investigation on China’s Targeting the Maritime, Logistics, and Shipbuilding Sectors for Dominance, and remove sanctions imposed on various shipping entities.
  • China will further extend the expiration of its market-based tariff exclusion process for imports from the United States and exclusions will remain valid until December 31, 2026.
  • China will terminate its various investigations targeting U.S. companies in the semiconductor supply chain, including its antitrust, anti-monopoly, and anti-dumping investigations.
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MortyandRick

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henrik said:
So where is the Chinese readout?
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Right here
As was discussed in depth 3-4 days ago

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https://www.mofcom.gov.cn/syxwfb/art/2025/art_e8453c07ce374814ba65bdb6ff5813c4.html The spokesman of the Ministry of Commerce answered reporters' questions on the joint arrangements of Sino-US Kuala Lumpur Economic and Trade Consultations Q: It is understood that China and the United States...
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I don't know why people or do much emphasis on what the white house says when we have a link to what china says already in the other thread

Again not even Americans take what the white house says at face value, they wait for the Chinese read out
 
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