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Fatty

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FairAndUnbiased said:
you OK?

US had military parades during the Cold War all the time.

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US famously had a Gulf war victory parade in 1991. Largest parade since WW2. Interesting thing about that parade is that Vietnam war veterans took part, after they had been denigrated and spit on when they came home from Vietnam 15 years earlier
 
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iewgnem

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4Tran said:
I'm a little surprised that China was willing to offer that. Limiting American production of high-tech weapons for the next decade is an incredibily potent advantage, and it's not worth giving up for just a few years of high-end semiconductors.

However, I'm not surprised that the Americans didn't take up the offer. They are very poor at planning for the long term, and in American politics, giving up stances that were adopted in the name of national security is very difficult to justify. Maybe they're already thinking of ways to either smuggle rare earths or to take the civilian allocations and give it to military contractors.


Lockheed Martin is supposed to have enough for F-35 production up until the end of this year. After that, they said that they expect the US government to give them priority for future supply.
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I mean, China offered it but also didn't, China didn't offer unrestricted supply to US military as reward for surrendering the tech war, that's never happening to anyone, China offered "compliant trade" i.e. China supervised production of US military gear in quantities China allows and with full transparency to Chinese inspectors, i.e. something both side knows will never happen. The proposal is really just China's humiliating the US.
 
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vincent

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Wrought said:
There is room for negotiation, but the US doesn't want to take it.
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At talks in London last week, China's negotiators appeared to link progress in lifting export controls on military-use rare earth magnets with the longstanding U.S. curbs on exports of the most advanced AI chips to China. That marked a new twist in trade talks that began with opioid trafficking, tariff rates and China's trade surplus, but have since shifted to focus on export controls.

And U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said there would be no "quid pro quo" on easing curbs on exports of AI chips to China in exchange for access to rare earths.
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Could just be a joke after Bessent's on hypersonic missiles.
 
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