Trump 2.0 official thread

[MortyandRick]

Not just a long border. But share similar values, culture, language, political system, part of rhe 5 eye.

Closer economic integration in the long term is all but guaranteed.

Lol, you obviously are not Canadian and don't understand Canadians.

Carney literally said that prior integrated relationship with the US is over.

We were already integrated pretty closely with the US. This is not gonna make it become closer. We are now actively trying to further diversify. We literally voted for Carney because he said that the old relationship of integration with the US is over.

Btw, Canada hit back against Trump's america. Sure we are smaller but no pushover. We retaliated.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I was watching Trump saying if countries don't make deals with him, he'll make them for them. What the hell is he talking about? Is he going to make them worse thus worsen the US position or is he going to make them less admitting he miscalculated and then some mysterious force is going to enforce it for him whether they like it or not and they'll have to live with it? For China it means the US goes bankrupt because they can't fill their store shelves with inventory. Oh yes, it's Trump still thinking the US still has the upper hand.

Now I'm watching Peter Navarro being interviewed on CNN. He's avoiding vilifying China when being asked questions about negotiations. He knows China will just continue ghosting the US if he does ruining Trump's "great deal" in the works he'll have with China for the US. Again if the US was in the power position then why not just end all relations with China including economic to show China who's boss? But Trump and Republicans are demanding China make a deal because on the things they can't get without China's cooperation. How can they demand free rare earths they need for their high tech for life from China when there's no relations at all which means they get no rare earths... at all. They want to be able to force everyone to volunteer to be their slaves because having no slaves for them will be worse. They can't have slaves these days without being vilified for forcing it to happen let alone someone is eventually going to nuke them. So the only way they can have slaves is if people volunteer to be one. That requires cooperation. That's why if they don't need China, why then demand China make a deal? From a civilized point of view, deals are supposed to be mutual. Trump ain't looking for what's mutual. He looking to how much you're going to give to him before he decides to use violence. He and the Republicans are worse than the devil because at the least the devil gives you something before signing your soul away to him.

 

[nativechicken]

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China and the United States resume communication
Just a reminder, talking for several months or years is normal, but it does not mean that tariffs will be reduced.
Just the communication channels between both parties have been restored. China and the United States will hold talks in a third country (Switzerland)

 

[AssassinsMace]

The latest... Trump is planning to send migrants to Libya meaning he's going to send people from like Latin America to Libya. It might start a trend. Look at how Europe and Canada dump their garbage on Southeast Asian beaches without permission. And Trump is trying to blame the Great Garbage Patch of the Pacific on China...

Chinese in a way did counter journalism exposing how luxury items from Europe are made by Chinese and not romanticized artisans in Europe. You notice the West never says where that garbage comes from. I imagine some of the labelling and packaging from the garbage survives to be identified. If it were from China, there wouldn't be some investigative report blaming China? Remember Jeremy Clarkson who literally blamed China for why there's so much garbage on Southeast Asian beaches. Then it came out how Canada and Europe were literally dumping their refuse from their countries there. It was cheaper and better for the environment because they didn't have to burn it. And look at what basically is an admission of guilt is when they were whining China wasn't taking their plastics to recycle anymore. And what was one of the reasons why? Because too much garbage was mixed in with it.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Not just a long border. But share similar values, culture, language, political system, part of rhe 5 eye.

All these reasons are exactly why it's so stupid for the US to have antagonized Canada making it hostile. It was almost impossibly hard to do.

Closer economic integration in the long term is all but guaranteed.

Yeah in the long term after Trump exits, things may go back to normal... save for the many Canadians who will remember all the things that MAGA idiots said to them online. But you cite this improvement after departure as a positive for Trump? He created a problem that might self-resolve after he leaves; that means he won? LOL

 

[JJD1803]

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China and the United States resume communication
Just a reminder, talking for several months or years is normal, but it does not mean that tariffs will be reduced.
Just the communication channels between both parties have been restored. China and the United States will hold talks in a third country (Switzerland)

According to Bessent ,these aren't trade talks. They are discussions about de-escalation and he doesn't expect any discussions on a broader trade deal to occur. So there is no expectation of major rollbacks on tariffs.

 

[lcloo]

How Chinese exporters who previously focused on US market disposed off their goods that were originally made for exports. They held May Day sales at discounted prices to local Chinese consumers.

They also re-start their production aims at domestic and other foreign markets, sans USA.

 

[TK3600]

As long as Japan exists as an independent entity there exists the possibility of having a China in decline and an ascendant Japan . In this scenario, history would keep replaying itself as Japan seeks to overcome its inherent disadvantages by colonizing mainland Asia. Incorporation into China as 2-3 separate provinces forever ends that possibility. The Japanese islands also give a wide front of access into the Pacific, act as a forward base away from the higher value mainland coast (commercial shipping and manufacturing), and extend detection range.

China is destined to eventually lose. When China gain advantage, they rarely press on. When Japan gain advantage, they go for the finishing blow. China can win 9/10 times and it never matters. Japan just need to win 1/10 times and win forever.

 

[jiajia99]

China is destined to eventually lose. When China gain advantage, they rarely press on. When Japan gain advantage, they go for the finishing blow. China can win 9/10 times and it never matters. Japan just need to win 1/10 times and win forever.

Really? China hasn’t lost WW2 against Japan, sure they took heaps of losses but at the end of the war, with or without the rest of those so called Allie’s, China would drive Japan out of China no matter what. That same silly logic though could easily apply to Japan, if the USA is out of the picture, what chance does Japan have for a future without China given that China does have the resources to stave Japan off needed imports to survive and I don’t recall much of Asia liking them much. I would say given the current downfall of the USA, China destiny in reclaiming Japan into its sphere of influence as either a colony or a strictly neutral state is simply a matter of time and given Japans current demographic with most of its hardened fighters passing on to be replaced by weaker people with none of that samurai spirit left, this one will be a permanent arrangement. Also China does in fact go for kill shots given all those invaders that tried to mess with China in the past have faded from history, it’s just that unlike to some people preference, it simply takes a long period of time but every victory China gains, is a permanent one. Japan is next on Chinas list, don’t think China has forgotten WW2,

 

[TK3600]

Really? China hasn’t lost WW2 against Japan, sure they took heaps of losses but at the end of the war, with or without the rest of those so called Allie’s, China would’ve eventually driven Japan out of China. That same silly logic though could easily apply to Japan, if the USA is out of the picture, what chance does Japan have for a future without China given that China does have the resources to stave Japan off need imports to survive and I don’t recall much of Asia liking them much. I would say given the current downfall of the USA, China destiny in reclaiming Japan into its sphere of influence as either a colony or a strictly neutral state is simply a matter of time and given Japans current demographic, this one will be a permanent arrangement

Japan only need to win once, and they almost did. You never know what happens after 500 years. Never wise to leave a large independent entity protected by ocean near the heartland.