Trade War with China

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Tam

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Not sure how China is going to buy American cars even with the tariffs removed. For many reasons ---

American cars are often too big for Asian roads and parking spaces. Despite China's highways and skyways, you're still going to move through the crowded cities and park there.

They eat too much gas.

China sacked over 1 million corrupt officials. There goes the market for luxury goods and cars.
 
manqiangrexue

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SteelBird said:
How do you interpret this sentence? It sounds to me that they are using her as a chip for trade talk.
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Canada's probably face-palming. They're going through all this for what is now an obvious mafia attempt by the US, a country that called the Canadian president weak, to get a better deal from China. And it's an attempt so stupidly obvious that China would be encouraging global kidnapping of its citizens if it rewarded it by one ounce. As I said before, Meng is not a scientist; holding her does the US no good at all but it serves to buttress Chinese determination. In the end, even giving her back for free as a sign of "good will" to alleviate the rage building in the Chinese consumer is far better than keeping her imprisoned. But there is no good will after this; Chinese people will remember this.
 
SinoSoldier

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Insignius said:
Replace "personal freedoms" and "fair business and trade practices" with "the blessing of jesus" and "the salvation of one's eternal soul by the religious authorities that we control" and your statement is correct.

The West is very much the same aggressive religious crusader as thousand years ago. The god in whose name countries are invaded and people are oppressed and slaughtered has changed, that's all.

I agree. I would like China to become Western and democratic only to end up invading Saudi Arabia on charges of human rights violations. China can sever the Western oil supply and turn that country into a failed state so that the West gets nothing anymore, all for democracy and human rights.
I bet the West has nothing to say against that noble cause? After all, who needs to drive cars and have an economy if you have the awesome blessing of democracy-jesus that makes BigMacs fall from the skies for every woman and child?
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Mein Gott... do people not get sarcasm anymore?

On the issue of Western countries and their history of conquest, it is widely acknowledged (including by Western societies themselves) that certain groups have a less-than-pristine history of aggressive conflicts, perhaps even recently, but that doesn't detract from the fact that these nations treat their own citizens better than most other nations around the globe and that their "interventions" have an uncanny pattern of instilling democratic movements throughout the globe. At the risk of derailing this thread, my final point is that China isn't acting like a "crusader" not necessarily because it doesn't wish to, but rather that it has no ability to.
 
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s002wjh

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Tam said:
Not sure how China is going to buy American cars even with the tariffs removed. For many reasons ---

American cars are often too big for Asian roads and parking spaces. Despite China's highways and skyways, you're still going to move through the crowded cities and park there.

They eat too much gas.

China sacked over 1 million corrupt officials. There goes the market for luxury goods and cars.
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maybe but GM does sell more car in China then here in US. ppl gonna buy what they deem is good quality/safety etc. Unless most chinese believe the quality of Chinese brand auto are on par with toyota etc, those who has $$ gonna continue to buy foreign brand. in the future their own brand need to be improved and compete in the developed countries not just developing country.
 
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manqiangrexue said:
Canada's probably face-palming. They're going through all this for what is now an obvious mafia attempt by the US, a country that called the Canadian president weak, to get a better deal from China. And it's an attempt so stupidly obvious that China would be encouraging global kidnapping of its citizens if it rewarded it by one ounce. As I said before, Meng is not a scientist; holding her does the US no good at all but it serves to buttress Chinese determination. In the end, even giving her back for free as a sign of "good will" to alleviate the rage building in the Chinese consumer is far better than keeping her imprisoned. But there is no good will after this; Chinese people will remember this.
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i'm not worry about her, she got $$$ on lawyers. she spend like tens million to buy house in canada, alot these elite hold canadian green card and practically move to US/Canada/australia with green card and buy multi-million dollar house in CA/vancouver etc.

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She owns two Vancouver houses worth millions
China's elites often seek to keep their fortunes out of the public eye.

It's unclear how much Meng is worth. She has never appeared on the Hurun Rich List, which tracks China's wealthiest people, according to its founder Rupert Hoogewerf.
But she definitely has deep pockets.
Court documents state Meng and her venture capitalist husband, Liu Xiaozong, own two properties in Vancouver alone, one worth 5.6 million Canadian dollars ($4.2 million) and the other worth 16.3 million Canadian dollars ($12.2 million).

Meng and Liu are willing to pledge the equity in either or both of their homes as security for bail, in addition to a cash deposit, they told the court.
It makes sense that Meng is wealthy. She has been a top executive at one of China's biggest tech companies for years. Her father is worth $3.2 billion, according to
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She was a permanent resident of Canada
Meng said in her written statement to the court that she and her family have extensive ties to Canada — which she first visited in 2003 — and to Vancouver in particular.

Since then she has returned to the country regularly, "originally as a visitor but for some period of time I was also a permanent resident of Canada — status that I have since relinquished," she said.
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SinoSoldier

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Icmer said:
I interpret this to be sarcasm as well. Do I still not understand sarcasm?
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I am being entirely serious with this point; the transformation of Iraq from a Saddam-led totalitarian regime to a parliamentary democracy, and other examples including Libya or Egypt, was in part or a direct precipitant of Western intervention, whether through military or social means.
 
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Wow. Such democracy. Sure worth the 1 million dead Iraqis that have died due to the immediate effects of the invasion, occupation and destabilization.

Sure, the West treats its own citizens well. Just like a man-eating tiger is treating its kids well after having dragged your mom and dad into its cave to feed its off-spring.
The West is just like this. A predator that that kills defenseless countries and enslaves defenseless poor people for the sake of enabling its own population a life in luxury and freedom.
And then they have the gall to point that out as some sort of morally justified thing to do.

I can assure you, the dead Iraqi, the Aghan man who has lost his family during a drone strike on a wedding party, the exploited worker in China... They all are totally understanding of your readiness to sacrifice others for your own security and prosperity. And they all believe that whatever you did was for their own good.

Dont blame me when the third world rises up and takes their revenge not only on your governments, but also on your people who got fat by the spoils of pillage and rape.
 
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SinoSoldider is very likely part of the vast Western astroturfing army run by the pentagon and UK's gchq. This user frequently writes apologist drivel for the US regime. It's a long debunked myth that America cares about democracy, let alone selflessly installs them across the globe. Iraq, Libya, Yemen etc are all failed states due to American wars of aggression (often based on lies). Far from being "mistakes" done with the "best of intentions", they fit perfectly into a pattern of greed-driven malice and flagrant disregard for human rights, democracy, rule of law, and freedom. Many of the governments toppled by the US regime were democratically elected governments.

William Blum documented dozens of these clandestine attacks.

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A high ranking US military general said it best nearly a century ago. [America's] War is a racket.

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