To those who serve/served in the armed forces: WHAT DO YOU ENVY ABOUT THE PLA?


bd popeye

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Imagine how hard landing a beachead on Chinese shores will be. It would be like D-Day except 100x worse.
No it would not..because a full frontal assault of a beach head is no longer in the US warfighting plan..trust me on that.

I pray that there is never a war between the US and PRC.
 

Unit88

Banned Idiot
No it would not..because a full frontal assault of a beach head is no longer in the US warfighting plan..trust me on that.

I pray that there is never a war between the US and PRC.
IF the United States were to ATTACK CHINA, they would most likey open a two front war. One moving up from India and the other from the Pacific Ocean Region. The path through India would be tough because it is mountous and forest. Through the sea, a beachead is the ONLY way to land troops and artellery. Most like the Marine Corps will try and secure the area. But without a full assault, the United States would have to proceed through Alaska and down through Manchuria, meaning they might get Russia involved......hmmmm
 

Chengdu J-10

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IF the United States were to ATTACK CHINA, they would most likey open a two front war. One moving up from India and the other from the Pacific Ocean Region. The path through India would be tough because it is mountous and forest. Through the sea, a beachead is the ONLY way to land troops and artellery. Most like the Marine Corps will try and secure the area. But without a full assault, the United States would have to proceed through Alaska and down through Manchuria, meaning they might get Russia involved......hmmmm
Never gonna happen. Russia will not want to get involved between a Sino-US war. Especially helping the US out by letting them pass through their territory. About this landing thing on the beach. Seems very outdated tactic if you ask me. If it was to be done the US first must get to the shore alive. Since PLA would know their presence way before they began to move to the shore.

PLA troops being outdated. I don't think their that outdated and ill equipped in equipments. For an army that size and a budget that is not as big as the US, I reckon they are fairly well equipped, mixing high tech troops for penetration and normal equipped troops for the bulk of the war.

Also US going through India to China, hmmm....maybe but doubt it though. The PLA have some of the worlds finest gorilla warefare troops in the world, gaining tactical experience from previous wars. Though the US is still capable, they have been relying on technology to fight there war too long.
 

szbd

Junior Member
No it would not..because a full frontal assault of a beach head is no longer in the US warfighting plan..trust me on that.
No beach head assult, you mean only use helicopters to cut rear and flank in amphbious assult?

I pray that there is never a war between the US and PRC.
We all know this is veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery easy. Just don't attack PRC, that's enough. The only possible target for PRC is taiwan, not US.
 

bd popeye

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No beach head assult, you mean only use helicopters to cut rear and flank in amphbious assult?
Yes. The present policy is a flanking manuever. landing at an unopposed bech. Establishing a base and using that for attack. As unit88 pointed out a full frontal assult on a a beach is murderous. Too many lives and assest would be lost.

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Moderators note: Guys, We are all little guilty of going off topic into a subject that usally leads to closing of threads..PRC Vs USA/ROC. So lets get back to the subject at hand. What do you envy about the PLA? Thank you.
 
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szbd

Junior Member
Yes. The present policy is a flanking manuever. landing at an unopposed bech. Establishing a base and using that for attack. As unit88 pointed out a full frontal assult on a a beach is murderous. Too many lives and assest would be lost.

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Moderators note: Guys, We are all little guilty of going off topic into a subject that usally leads to closing of threads..PRC Vs USA/ROC. So lets get back to the subject at hand. What do you envy about the PLA? Thank you.
Well then this tactics does not suit for China-Taiwan senario, because there will be no unopposed beach.

My uncle who served in North fleet for 9 years once told me he envied the food of sub crews from East fleet so much. He said it's like order as you wish in the top restarunt in China.
 

Jeff Head

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I dont understand why you always state that "I am not sure that the PLA personnel are justifiably proud of their own equipment and service." It is obvious that the PLA's equipment arent as high tech as United States, but I bet you that the equipment that the PLA has will pack a punch that will destroy and kill. If war with PLA were to happen, the casuality rates on both countries would be tremedously high. THIS ISNT Iraq we are fighting where the governent itself is NOT in total disaray. People will die. Imagine how hard landing a beachead on Chinese shores will be. It would be like D-Day except 100x worse.
First, I did not say, "I am not sure that the PLA personnel are justifiably proud of their own equipment and service.".

Re-read what you quoted me as saying. I said, "I am sure that the PLA personnel are justifiably proud of their own equipment and service."

One word makes a big difference and you went off on a big discussion based on misquoting me.

I am sure that the PLA is justifiably proud of their equipment. There is no doubt that they can fight with it and fight well.

2nd, I never spoke of the US attacking the PRC on the mainland. If it, God forbid, ever became necessary, I doubt that the US would force a landing against a well defended beachhead anyway. They would use their amphibious assault capabilities to apply air cav and create a beachhead where it was not expected or well defended and then attempt to flank.

3rd...why compare Iraq to anything we are talking about? Makes no sense. I certainly did not bring up Iraq and an invasion of the PRC...that's all your own doing. I simply responded to another poster aboiut the relative merits of the systems themselves.

Can we get back to the topic of this thread now?
 

eckherl

New Member
As mentioned above, please keep Iraq out of this. If anybody on this topic thinks that China can take on the U.S in a major war at the present time then this is only wishful thinking on your part, that capability is still another twenty years away, why would we have to set foot on China, the U.S can take away their sea lanes and skies and just play the waiting game.

Now getting back on topic - What I admire about the PLA is the fact that they are studying U.S military tactics in four magor area`s, ground,air,naval and communications and they are adapting/fine tuning this into their future battle doctrine. Twenty years down the road the PLA will be a force to be reckoned with along with a economy to back it up.
 

Gollevainen

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This topic is about what men that have served in the militaries of various nations envy about PLA. Its not about china invading USA or Taiwan nor vice versa into any direction. I will get pissed to see when clear topics go overboard and expecially when members try to hint constantly to get back to topic. Now, if this isent enough, we have a moderator said in here to get back into topic....and the no one seems to take even a notice of it!:mad: ! Now you can all imagine how pissed that makes me...:nono: :nono:

So pray all your gods and sacraments that I dont have to intervene into this thread any longer, becouse then some heads will begun to drop....

Gollevainen
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kunmingren

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Does anyone have informations about foods that PLA infantry eat in the field, or for that matter what American service men/women eat. I see on TV American soldier eat Pizzahut and Burger King in Iraq, but i doubt in an actual 'War' they would have that type of luxury.
 

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