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Gatekeeper

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Well I suggest people don't bring up their religion in this forum. Bringing up God is an excuse for people not to answer questions. China has been around longer than the bible says there was an Earth and we're suppose to not question it? The Chinese have to rewrite their own history to accomodate a historical oppressor of China that denied rights left and right while thinking they're the greater victim? If you don't want to hear your religion being questioned, don't bring it up in the first place. Every time someone brings up God in here, it has no context in any discussion. The people complaining about the rules being broken have no problem bringing up God which happens to also be against the rules in here. God doesn't have to follow rules hence why they get to skip that one. Just because you can't win a discussion, it doesn't mean it's unprovoked Western bashing. You're suppose to get your way then you believe there's no Western bashing in here, right? Again like I've noted before, some people think that free speech is they can say anything they want but if any one questions or challenges it, their free speech is being denied. In here it's called Western bashing. China is being attacked by the US and as usual the Chinese are suppose to take it and not counter... I don't care whatever subject people bring up in here just as long as someone like me can respond in kind. But if that's not okay with people who can't defend their arguments, then you snowflakes shouldn't be given a pass and be protected either. It doesn't need to be a person either. Plenty of articles from the West are filled with sloppy anti-China journalism. I'm not in the F-35 thread much but one time I posted a negative article from an American journalist and I was instantly accused of America bashing. Well I can see some in here complaining about the conduct of members where that's all they do in here is post negative news on China. So what are you complaining about?
I thought religion is not allowed?!
 

Gatekeeper

Captain
Registered Member
Don't know where to put this, and since the huawai "national security" bothers me, I'll put it here.

I have just bought a huawai for my wife, and this might come in handy to show alternate apps to use.

Hope it helps other.



【谷歌配合美國打壓中國企業 華為無谷歌 代替品很多】
#歡迎大家提供更多代替品程式 #知識改變命運
美國動用國家力量打壓中國的一間民企華為,而Google也配合美國政府打壓華為,打算暫停與華為的其餘商業合作。Google回應稱正遵守有關命令,並審查其影響。

消息最初指出,Google暫停與華為合作後,華為將無法更新其智能手機的Android作業系統。至於華為在中國以外地區發表的新一代手機,亦會無法使用Google旗下的Play Store、Gmail、YouTube等多個普及的手機應用程式和服務。

但有醒目的網民就指,國內十三億人的市場,多年已習慣無使用google的產品,所以現在用不了Google 的產品,坊間早已有多款代替品可以取代Google,亦都紛紛比Google出色,就如無得用Google play安裝程式,用Apkpure, 無Google map可用高德地圖,更精準。 最後蝕底的或是Google。

不過,好多人以為 Apps安裝唔到,就無得用,其實,仲有好多野可以用網頁版。而未來是G5和雲計算的世界,手機要的只是一個login窗口,核心技術都在雲端,所以更無有怕。

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Gatekeeper

Captain
Registered Member
"China rages against Bolton meeting with Taiwan as anti-invasion drills begin on the island"
By Ben Westcott, CNN

Don't know where to put this, and since this sort of stuff bothers me, I'll put it here.
If Mods feel this is inappropreate, please remove.

This is the headline I recently found on CNN. And this is the typical western MSM that I found so objectionable.

I mean the headline is trying to say to the avaerage layman (who will not bother to analysis in depth of this) that China is being unreasonably, and angry (unreasonably also) over a meeting by Bolton and Taiwan.

Now to this person, the average Chinese who dislike this meeting taking place is really unreasonable.

But, if one should look at this deeper, should this meeting have taken place at all?

1st, the US officially recognised PRC China.
2nd, the US officially not recognised ROC China.
So in this instant, it is not China that is behaving unreasonably, (as painted by CNN). It is infact US is the one behaving inappropreately.
But somehow, the MSM don't seem too care too much, but carry on with the anti-China message all the same.
 
Don't know where to put this, and since the huawai "national security" bothers me, I'll put it here.

I have just bought a huawai for my wife, and this might come in handy to show alternate apps to use.

Hope it helps other.



【谷歌配合美國打壓中國企業 華為無谷歌 代替品很多】
#歡迎大家提供更多代替品程式 #知識改變命運
美國動用國家力量打壓中國的一間民企華為,而Google也配合美國政府打壓華為,打算暫停與華為的其餘商業合作。Google回應稱正遵守有關命令,並審查其影響。

消息最初指出,Google暫停與華為合作後,華為將無法更新其智能手機的Android作業系統。至於華為在中國以外地區發表的新一代手機,亦會無法使用Google旗下的Play Store、Gmail、YouTube等多個普及的手機應用程式和服務。

但有醒目的網民就指,國內十三億人的市場,多年已習慣無使用google的產品,所以現在用不了Google 的產品,坊間早已有多款代替品可以取代Google,亦都紛紛比Google出色,就如無得用Google play安裝程式,用Apkpure, 無Google map可用高德地圖,更精準。 最後蝕底的或是Google。

不過,好多人以為 Apps安裝唔到,就無得用,其實,仲有好多野可以用網頁版。而未來是G5和雲計算的世界,手機要的只是一個login窗口,核心技術都在雲端,所以更無有怕。

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I wish Microsoft did a better job to be competition to Google and Apple. Speaking of which is there a Chinese OS that can replace Windows or Mac if they get banned from doing business with China?
 

Air Force Brat

Brigadier
Super Moderator
"China rages against Bolton meeting with Taiwan as anti-invasion drills begin on the island"
By Ben Westcott, CNN

Don't know where to put this, and since this sort of stuff bothers me, I'll put it here.
If Mods feel this is inappropreate, please remove.

This is the headline I recently found on CNN. And this is the typical western MSM that I found so objectionable.

I mean the headline is trying to say to the avaerage layman (who will not bother to analysis in depth of this) that China is being unreasonably, and angry (unreasonably also) over a meeting by Bolton and Taiwan.

Now to this person, the average Chinese who dislike this meeting taking place is really unreasonable.

But, if one should look at this deeper, should this meeting have taken place at all?

1st, the US officially recognised PRC China.
2nd, the US officially not recognised ROC China.
So in this instant, it is not China that is behaving unreasonably, (as painted by CNN). It is infact US is the one behaving inappropreately.
But somehow, the MSM don't seem too care too much, but carry on with the anti-China message all the same.
Doesn't your post lend credibility to his article?? even though we officially recognize the PRC as the legitimate govt of mainland China, we have always tacitly recognized the govt of Taiwan as an independent nation, and have a strong military to military agreement to defend ROC from any invasion by the PRC.

So the US is behaving exactly as we have always behaved, and China is behaving as its always behaved? in fact the election of President Xi marks a Chinese retreat from a growing trust and friendship, to a more adversarial stance..

So really the US is responding to a more threatening posture by President Xi and the PRC...

sad really, but it is what it is?
 

solarz

Brigadier
Doesn't your post lend credibility to his article?? even though we officially recognize the PRC as the legitimate govt of mainland China, we have always tacitly recognized the govt of Taiwan as an independent nation, and have a strong military to military agreement to defend ROC from any invasion by the PRC.

So the US is behaving exactly as we have always behaved, and China is behaving as its always behaved? in fact the election of President Xi marks a Chinese retreat from a growing trust and friendship, to a more adversarial stance..

So really the US is responding to a more threatening posture by President Xi and the PRC...

sad really, but it is what it is?
No, the official US position is that it recognizes Taiwan as a part of China.
 

Gatekeeper

Captain
Registered Member
I wish Microsoft did a better job to be competition to Google and Apple. Speaking of which is there a Chinese OS that can replace Windows or Mac if they get banned from doing business with China?
Well, from the news i heard today, Huawei is bring out its own OS. And it'll be compactible with Andriod. And apparently, users would not notice because it will be seemless.

Now, I confessed not being a Tech guy, so how much this is true, I can't tell you because I don't know.
 

Gatekeeper

Captain
Registered Member
Doesn't your post lend credibility to his article?? even though we officially recognize the PRC as the legitimate govt of mainland China, we have always tacitly recognized the govt of Taiwan as an independent nation, and have a strong military to military agreement to defend ROC from any invasion by the PRC.

So the US is behaving exactly as we have always behaved, and China is behaving as its always behaved? in fact the election of President Xi marks a Chinese retreat from a growing trust and friendship, to a more adversarial stance..

So really the US is responding to a more threatening posture by President Xi and the PRC...

sad really, but it is what it is?
Brat, I like you and your contribution to this forum. But as Solarz pointed out.

The official US position is recognised PRC only and deregnised ROC, and inaddition recogised theres only ONE CHINA. Now you may or may not agree with this position. But it is the official position nontheless, and respected by every US presidents since Jimmy Carter.

And as such, US will only have diplomatic relationship with PRC, which is why you wont find an embassy from ROC in US. or a US embassy in Taiwan.

I know at times we the posters sound like we are bashing US. believe me we are not, at least I'm not. I wish China and US get along as friends.

But there are certain facts needed to make clear to layman before we can forge ahead with the friendship, and Taiwan is one of those on the very top of the list.

Hope I explained it well.
 

jimmyjames30x30

Junior Member
Registered Member
Brat, I like you and your contribution to this forum. But as Solarz pointed out.

The official US position is recognised PRC only and deregnised ROC, and inaddition recogised theres only ONE CHINA. Now you may or may not agree with this position. But it is the official position nontheless, and respected by every US presidents since Jimmy Carter.

And as such, US will only have diplomatic relationship with PRC, which is why you wont find an embassy from ROC in US. or a US embassy in Taiwan.

I know at times we the posters sound like we are bashing US. believe me we are not, at least I'm not. I wish China and US get along as friends.

But there are certain facts needed to make clear to layman before we can forge ahead with the friendship, and Taiwan is one of those on the very top of the list.

Hope I explained it well.
Well, technically, @Air Force Brat does have a point, since he did use the word "tacitly". This means de fecto conditions. If we stick to his standards, tacitly speaking, PRC also treats Taiwan as a de fecto foreign nation, except PRC has given preferential treatments to residents of Taiwan/ROC "citizens". It's not like PRC leadership actually treats Taiwan as a subordinate province in real decision making. If so, China will be very unsafe, as Taiwanese spies and saboteurs will fill our streets and infiltrate deeply into Mainland government institutions. The same is also true vise versa for Taiwan, aka ROC.

But that's not important. I think what's important is that has the US elites and common people really thought about what exactly are they trying to defend in Taiwan? Too often, I got the impression that they are just there because they think the CCP and PRC are just tree-hugging weaklings that can't fight back, or aren't really willing to risk a war. With this in their mind, the mighty Yanks think they can do whatever the heck they want with impunity.

The USA needs to have grasp of reality.

If the US is standing for their beloved Democracy, Freedom and Western Style Liberalism in Taiwan, they should push for unification sooner than later. Let the two sides negotiate a unification deal, while the US side still has more leverage. This would secure a better deal for Taiwan from a position of strength.

If the US pushes for a containment strategy against PRC, they should have keep Taiwan out of the focus of this whole media-diplomatic frenzy. They should push for status-quo, and keep the DPP green party under control. This will work as a much more stable long term containment strategy against the PRC.

If the US is delusional, it will do what it is doing right now.
 

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