The relation between China and the neighboring country

voyager1

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@KYli bro I bet you they're talking about the COC in the SCS, China need to give Duterte some ammunition. If a COC with a Oil deal is sign. That will reverberate across the region and other claimants will follow suit.
Is it time for COC though?

From my understanding both sides ASEAN-China have a benefit to stalling this agreement

China needs flexibility to counter US intrusions and to maximize its gains

While ASEAN wants to invite US for a seat in the table so that it can leverage it vs China. By using the US, ASEAN can get a stronger negotiating position vs China

IMO China can sign this deal whenever it wants but Xi doesn't want to (yet..). This is a card that Xi will play after something major has happened on the SCS.
 

spring2017

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GLOBALink | New China-Vietnam-Laos cross-border multimodal transport service launched​

Glad to see that China is strengthen relationship with Vietnam and Laos.

I think it was a painful mistake for China to invade Vietnam in 1979. China acted as a paw for the US imperialist (against the USSR), and got rewarded by a short period of honey-moon with the enemy, and was embargoed again by the U.S. after 1989.

China, Vietnam, and North Korea shares the same socio-economic system, and bloody struggles against U.S. imperialists. Their people have the same fundamental interest to keep that hard-won victory alive.

U.S. was just using China at the time, like it is using Vietnam. China is now waking up to the cold fact that the imperialist U.S. would never accept China. The alliance of the three socialist brothers to against the U.S. will have strong deterrence effect.

China should settle territory dispute with Vietnam as soon as possible. Strategically, there is a much bigger threat for China.
 

spring2017

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I am glad that Russia and China relation improve over the last decades. China owe a debt of gratitude to Russia.
I am glad too. We need to remember, however, today's capitalist Russia is completely different for the socialist USSR.

The two countries shares a common enemy, but the fundamental interest of the two states are different. A strong socialist China will be perceived as a threat to Russian billionaires, as the Russian people may regret that they let the USSR got destroyed from within and brought misery to the Russian masses (for example, life expectancy shorten by 10 years for males after capitalist counter-revolution)

In war with China, U.S. will offer to buy out Russian billionaires, and they will sell out China. That's what a capitalist do.
 

Hendrik_2000

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I am glad too. We need to remember, however, today's capitalist Russia is completely different for the socialist USSR.

The two countries shares a common enemy, but the fundamental interest of the two states are different. A strong socialist China will be perceived as a threat to Russian billionaires, as the Russian people may regret that they let the USSR got destroyed from within and brought misery to the Russian masses (for example, life expectancy shorten by 10 years for males after capitalist counter-revolution)

In war with China, U.S. will offer to buy out Russian billionaires, and they will sell out China. That's what a capitalist do.
I don't think that is the case. There are many reason why China turn against Vietnam one of the biggest cause is Cambodia where the Vietnamese army was ensconced in HO Chi Min trail that run thru Cambodia. And they have dispute because the Cambodian was harassing Vietnamese settler along the border. In reprisal the Vietnamese attack and occupied large chunk of Cambodia which endanger Cambodia independence and could result in Cambodia becoming protectorate of Vietnam. Meantime Le Duc To take control of Communist party in Vietnam and he is very much anti Chinese. By prosecuting thousand of Chinese Vietnamese and driven them from Vietnam many fleeing to Guangxi and the rest become "Boat People"

The other thing Vietnam sided with Soviet Union in dispute over communist ideology split angering China

I don't believe China did the bidding of US It is classic relation between middle kingdom and vassal state Vietnam where China play the arbiter of all those small countries in SEA ensuring that Vietnam does not become hegemon in SEA .

The conflict last along time but Vietnam just does not have the economic or military where withal to antagonize China. Thing got worse when after the fall of Soviet Union suddenly Vietnam left dry and no one to turn to. So they sue for peace by withdrawing from Cambodia
 

Hendrik_2000

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While middle east descend into chaos with unending tit for tat or eye for and eye , Asia in contrast is a sea of tranquility with people enjoying each other food specialty Here is on example

Nihao, Kazakhstan - A famous Shaanxi delicacy and its bond with Belt and Road​

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Benefited from exchanges and trades between China and Kazakhstan, flour and many other products from Kazakhstan have become popular among Shaanxi residents.
 

Hendrik_2000

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I don't condone Japanese brutal invasion but not all Japanese soldier are rapist and murderer

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From an enemy to a hero: Japanese Eighth Route Army veteran Kobayashi Kancho
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Many international figures' life paths have crisscrossed with the Communist Party of China (CPC) over the past 100 years, when China witnessed tremendous progresses and changes, and so are their stories being remembered.
As a Japanese soldier, Kobayashi Kancho came to China as an enemy, but he ended up fighting for the country.

Born in 1919, Kobayashi was the son of Buddhist abbot in Gunma prefecture, Japan. After graduating from high school in 1939, he planned to become a monk and take over his father's position. However, he was recruited the next year, and was later sent to East China's Shandong province to join the war.

During an operation, Kobayashi was captured by the Eighth Route Army. He tried twice to commit suicide, but was saved and cured by the Chinese soldiers. During the march with the Army, after witnessing how the Chinese villages were burned, women raped and innocent people killed by the Japanese soldiers, he realized that Japan was the instigator of the aggression, and finally decided to stand by the Chinese people's side and join their fight instead.

On September 18, 1941, Kobayashi founded the Anti-war Alliance of the Jiaodong branch with two other Japanese soldiers, and officially became a member of the Eighth Route Army. During the war, they distributed anti-war leaflets, wrote slogans and made telephone calls, trying to persuade the Japanese Army to surrender.
After the founding of the People's Republic of China, he worked for the city government of Jinan, Shandong, and was later transferred to the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, where he worked as deputy director of a hospital. In 1955, he moved back to Japan.

In 2015, Kobayashi was invited as a guest of the Chinese government to the Commemoration of the 70th Anniversary of the Victory of the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression and the World Anti-Fascist War.

"Taking part in the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression is the most precious treasure in my life ...

My only dream is to let all my offspring know the truth of the invasion and the hard-won peace between China and Japan. We should all cherish this friendly relationship and avoid wars in the future," Kobayashi told reporters.
On May 16, 2019, Kobayashi Kancho, the last living Japanese veteran who had joined China's Eighth Route Army in the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, died in Japan at the age of 99, ending his legendary life from a Japanese enemy to a Chinese hero.

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I don't condone Japanese brutal invasion but not all Japanese soldier are rapist and murderer

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China state-controlled media
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From an enemy to a hero: Japanese Eighth Route Army veteran Kobayashi Kancho
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Many international figures' life paths have crisscrossed with the Communist Party of China (CPC) over the past 100 years, when China witnessed tremendous progresses and changes, and so are their stories being remembered.
As a Japanese soldier, Kobayashi Kancho came to China as an enemy, but he ended up fighting for the country.

Born in 1919, Kobayashi was the son of Buddhist abbot in Gunma prefecture, Japan. After graduating from high school in 1939, he planned to become a monk and take over his father's position. However, he was recruited the next year, and was later sent to East China's Shandong province to join the war.

During an operation, Kobayashi was captured by the Eighth Route Army. He tried twice to commit suicide, but was saved and cured by the Chinese soldiers. During the march with the Army, after witnessing how the Chinese villages were burned, women raped and innocent people killed by the Japanese soldiers, he realized that Japan was the instigator of the aggression, and finally decided to stand by the Chinese people's side and join their fight instead.

On September 18, 1941, Kobayashi founded the Anti-war Alliance of the Jiaodong branch with two other Japanese soldiers, and officially became a member of the Eighth Route Army. During the war, they distributed anti-war leaflets, wrote slogans and made telephone calls, trying to persuade the Japanese Army to surrender.
After the founding of the People's Republic of China, he worked for the city government of Jinan, Shandong, and was later transferred to the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, where he worked as deputy director of a hospital. In 1955, he moved back to Japan.

In 2015, Kobayashi was invited as a guest of the Chinese government to the Commemoration of the 70th Anniversary of the Victory of the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression and the World Anti-Fascist War.

"Taking part in the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression is the most precious treasure in my life ...

My only dream is to let all my offspring know the truth of the invasion and the hard-won peace between China and Japan. We should all cherish this friendly relationship and avoid wars in the future," Kobayashi told reporters.
On May 16, 2019, Kobayashi Kancho, the last living Japanese veteran who had joined China's Eighth Route Army in the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, died in Japan at the age of 99, ending his legendary life from a Japanese enemy to a Chinese hero.

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I bet his story of courage and sacrifice will not make it into the history books of Japan or the US.
 
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