The Modern Russian Navy

This thread documents the status of the modern Russian Navy. The actual ships under construction and being launched and commissioned. And it will focus on the non-strategic classes...meaning no SSBN, Orei class.

They have some good designs...some of them very good.

But all in all, their rate of production and ability to get vessels launched, outfitted, and commissioned has been an absolute embarrassment.

The thread will focus on the following classes:

...and I will include the:

The Ivan Gren Class LST
The Lada Class SSK

Those seven classes constitute the really modern Russian Navy. Several of these classes started design, and were in fact laid down around 2001 or the early 2000s.

Sadly, of them all, the Russians in the last 16 years have been able to get only 19 ships of these classes commissioned. 19 ships in 17 years.

Compare that to what the Chinese have done, or what the US is doing...where both of those nations have literally built and commissioned dozens and dozens of vessels, and many of the larger destroyers, amphibious ships, and aircraft carriers.

The Buyan M class has been an effective vessel, and has been used in Combat, launching cruise missiles at ISIS from the Black Sea. 10 have been launched and eight are active. They displace about 1000, tons:

The Steregushchvy Corvette is a larger, more capable vessel on the high seas. They are closer to a small frigate, with a full frigate type armament, and have decent stealth features. Six have been launched and five commissioned. They displace 2,200 tons:

The Admiral Grigorovich Frigate is a full function, large frigate. They have very decent armament and are the basis for the Indian Talwar class, of which India has purchased six so far and will get more. The Russian class has stronger sensors, a stronger battle management suite, and VLS cells. But they also depend on the Ukrainians for engines and have been stymied because...as you might guess...the Ukrainians are not selling them any more engines.

They displace 4,000 tons.

Four have been launched, but only two in service...and they really aren't in full service:

The Admiral Gorshkov class frigate is an impressive design. Probably the most impressive design for surface combatants the Russians have going.

They are armed like a destroyer, and are full function. They displace 4,500 tons. Only one has been launched and outfitted and it was recently commissioned...er, sort of.

They have problems and although three others are building and a second has been launched, but has not gone to sea yet. At this rate it will take the Russians a LONG time to replace the Sovremmenny and Udaloy class DDGs with these as is their desire.

Too bad too, because as can be seen, they are an impressive vessel:

The Yasen class SSN is a design that would rank it in the upper tier of the world's nuclear attack submarines. it is already a hybrid SSN, SSGN. However, like with their other vessels, except for the very small corvettes, the Russians simply cannot get the vessels built, outfitted and commissioned.

One has been launched and is in service. The second is apparently nearing launch...but it will be a long time before it is outfitted and commissioned.

The Russians need new SSNs as the US pumps out Virginia class subs, which are as capable, and will soon reach their new version that includes the SSGN capability...and they will build and commission them very fast too, by comparison.

The Ivab Gren class LST is a large LST along the lines of the Type 072A Chinese LST. These displace 6,600 tons and are the largest compbatant the Russians have built in over 16 years.

Very modern and capable LST design...but not in the same class as the LPDs China is launching, and that many other nations have...and certainly not like the LHD/LHAs that the US has, and France...and that China will build.

It is clear the Russians would like them...but they became another cost of the Ujkranian intervention/crisis. The Russians were going to have two, and then build two of their own.

Now the Egyptians have those LHDs.

But the Ivan Gren is a good ship...but only one has been launched and it is not commissioned yet. Another is ready to launch:

Finally, the Lada class SSK.

It was to replace the Kilo clas and be a modern, better version. It displaces 2,700 tons.

Sadly, they have had serious problems with it.

They launched the one and it was so beset by problems they had to completely redesign the vessel, and then incorporate those changes into the second ship that was building. All the others will incorporate the changes.

but the second has not been outfitted and sent to sea yet and we do not know if they fixed anything yet.

A real sad state of affairs for the nation that gave the world the Kilo class SSK conventional subs.

One vessel launched and commissioned...again...sort of.

...and there you have it.

Oh, the Russians have launced one new spy/intelligence vessel, and are launching impressive nuclear powere ice breakers.

but these are the major naval classes, and as I say, for them to be able to gt only 19 ships (and 2-3 of those have serious problems even after commissioning) in 16 years, tells the world that the Russian Navy and the Russian ship building industry is only a light shadow of its old self.

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Thought some of you guys might find interest in this thread.