The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Rafi

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Now I hope the Pakistani had realized that China had contribute the most in their victory against India NOT Turkiye, tactically their drone may achieved some LOCAL success But IN OVERALL Tactical and geopolitical level the Chinese did it.;)

Okay success had many father and failure is an orphan, in this report we can finally say the seed came

Honestly its frustrating how China never really gets the credit it deserves. Even when it achieves something, great they will find ways to trivialize it. Oh well , constantly overlooking China is fine since China prefers that you come to face it unprepared.

the Pakistani nation and its leaders have always credited the Chinese people and govt for its greatness, the respect and love for China is in the people and we have the highest regard for them in the world.
 

siegecrossbow

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I wonder how feasible it is for Pakistan to use MALE drones modified to carry AA weapons as air defense against saturation attacks with drones/cruise missiles. Akinci should already be AA capable and has AESA radar. Drones have much longer loitering time and are less expensive to operate.
 

ansy1968

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Honestly its frustrating how China never really gets the credit it deserves. Even when it achieves something, great they will find ways to trivialize it. Oh well , constantly overlooking China is fine since China prefers that you come to face it unprepared.
BeCause on this Kashmir victory conflict there is NO Caucasian behind its success, NO Steve Job, No Warren Buffet, NO JD Vance, Plus they considered the Turks as European stock so maybe they are the guiding hands not the Chinese who are inferior.
 

Black Wolf

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Now I hope the Pakistani had realized that China had contribute the most in their victory against India NOT Turkiye, tactically their drone may achieved some LOCAL success But IN OVERALL Tactical and geopolitical level the Chinese did it.;)

Okay success had many father and failure is an orphan, in this report we can finally say the seed came from a Chinese. ;)
Honestly its frustrating how China never really gets the credit it deserves. Even when it achieves something, great they will find ways to trivialize it. Oh well , constantly overlooking China is fine since China prefers that you come to face it unprepared.
BeCause on this Kashmir victory conflict there is NO Caucasian behind its success, NO Steve Job, No Warren Buffet, NO JD Vance, Plus they considered the Turks as European stock so maybe they are the guiding hands not the Chinese who are inferior.


Where is this whole “China not getting credit” narrative even coming from? Who exactly said China wasn’t involved or important? And more importantly, who gave Turkiye full credit in the first place? That angle feels completely manufactured like someone’s trying to invent a controversy that didn’t exist.

Also, not quite sure how you arrived at the conclusion that "Pakistanis now realize" it was solely China behind the success. That’s just not how it happened.

In reality, the outcome was a result of a well-coordinated and integrated mix of systems: AWACS, fighters, BVRAAMs, drones, AD networks, ECM/ESM units, MLRS sourced from China, US, EU, Turkiye, and developed indigenously. It wasn’t about one country, one system, or one breakthrough.

A huge part of the success came from integrating systems like Link-16 and Link-17 into a network-centric battlefield environment.
And all of that would’ve meant nothing without the professionalism and rigorous training of the pilots, engineers, and ground teams who made everything work under pressure.

Modern warfare isn’t won by one contributor alone. It’s about strategic execution, interoperability, and adaptation. Trying to assign victory to just one player whether China, Turkiye, or anyone else oversimplifies a much more complex and hard-fought success.
 
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neutralobserver

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Honestly its frustrating how China never really gets the credit it deserves. Even when it achieves something, great they will find ways to trivialize it. Oh well , constantly overlooking China is fine since China prefers that you come to face it unprepared.

Westoids will never praise China even if China wins a major world war, lol. Too much racism and sense of superiority on them. But China has definitely earned a lot of good will in global south. Just look at any poll on global views of China, Pakistan is usually among the top 1-2 countries with the most favorable opinions towards China outside of Chinese people themselves. China holds significant soft power in Pakistan. People often go out of their way to accommodate Chinese visitors in Pakistan. You you can see several videos on youtube that if someone tells Pakistanis that they are from China, they are given VIP treatment. It's honestly incredibly given the cultural/language differences between Pakistan and China how close the relations have gotten over the years not just at the govt level but people to people as well.
 

phrozenflame

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Where is this whole “China not getting credit” narrative even coming from? Who exactly said China wasn’t involved or important? And more importantly, who gave Turkiye full credit in the first place? That angle feels completely manufactured like someone’s trying to invent a controversy that didn’t exist.

Also, not quite sure how you arrived at the conclusion that "Pakistanis now realize" it was solely China behind the success. That’s just not how it happened.

In reality, the outcome was a result of a well-coordinated and integrated mix of systems: AWACS, fighters, BVRAAMs, drones, AD networks, ECM/ESM units, MLRS sourced from China, US, EU, Turkiye, and developed indigenously. It wasn’t about one country, one system, or one breakthrough.

A huge part of the success came from integrating systems like Link-16 and Link-17 into a network-centric battlefield environment.
And all of that would’ve meant nothing without the professionalism and rigorous training of the pilots, engineers, and ground teams who made everything work under pressure.

Modern warfare isn’t won by one contributor alone. It’s about strategic execution, interoperability, and adaptation. Trying to assign victory to just one player whether China, Turkiye, or anyone else oversimplifies a much more complex and hard-fought success.
Bingo.

We've seen some attempts previously to manufacture controversy here and other threads. Remember the names of such actors and then you will start to see similar styles, patterns, and puff posts to build alter ids and drive drama.

Im just to old and dont have the time to stitch it all together, just happens in my head automatically dealing with Jai Hinds for 2 decades now.

I leave and trust it to the overall maturity of this community to filter out the BS itself, luckily, thanks to mods who keep quality and sanity checks in place.
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Now, somebody asks why India isnt getting international support.

- They pissed off the West political elite by supporting Russia.
- They pissed off rest of the world by celebrating and advocating for mass child murder and by being pervs in general.
- They troll and threaten every credible source.
- No rational framework to have a discourse with them.
- General lack of civic sense.
- Governed by extremist polity who equate cutting edge science with cow dung and piss.

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siegecrossbow

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Westoids will never praise China even if China wins a major world war, lol. Too much racism and sense of superiority on them. But China has definitely earned a lot of good will in global south. Just look at any poll on global views of China, Pakistan is usually among the top 1-2 countries with the most favorable opinions towards China outside of Chinese people themselves. China holds significant soft power in Pakistan. People often go out of their way to accommodate Chinese visitors in Pakistan. You you can see several videos on youtube that if someone tells Pakistanis that they are from China, they are given VIP treatment. It's honestly incredibly given the cultural/language differences between Pakistan and China how close the relations have gotten over the years not just at the govt level but people to people as well.

They will once they’ve been indoctrinated in XJP Thought, by choice or otherwise!
 

ansy1968

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People often go out of their way to accommodate Chinese visitors in Pakistan. You you can see several videos on youtube that if someone tells Pakistanis that they are from China, they are given VIP treatment. It's honestly incredibly given the cultural/language differences between Pakistan and China how close the relations have gotten over the years not just at the govt level but people to people as well.
This I can attest, I had a passenger holding a PROC passport who join my tour group from Lahore to Islamabad and you know what he was provided with a security escort throughout the tour. His wife who was accompany him holding a Philippine passport was denied access to him as the guard form a cordon sanitaire, like a celebrity.....lol
 
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