The Kashmir conflict 2025.

mack8

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Well, just because the longest shot was from 190km doesn't necessarily mean the kills were made from that distance, maybe those were launched from a bit closer. Perhaps that might explain the several PL-15 wreckages found (some might have ran out of energy). Still, the article says the range of the PL-15 to be 230 to 280km, wonder where they got that info, and whether that applies to PLAAF version or export version.

Is there any info as to the approximate times of the IAF kills, and also whether the IAF strikes were flying low or higher up? Presumably the PAF CAP must have been high. If low then IAF might have been hampered because their AAMs would have had to snap-up at the PAF CAP, so they had no fire solution before the PAF CAP already had their AAMs on their way, launched probably high and fast.
 

Ringsword

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Palki takes it seriously now...

Stocks down when war stops. However, she thought it's more because PL-15 & HQ-9/16 performed badly. "Paki launched multiple PL-15 to India, none of them hit the targets." Well, well. :p

As to be expected after a few days respite, the jaihind mouthcannons are back in action spewing BS/antiChina hate-so funny and more then alittle irritating ,maybe Hao Gege and his crew should make another video trolling the jaihind losing the aerial battle.
 

Sinnavuuty

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I follow the Myanmar situation, the JF-17 issue is widely reported online by Indian sources BUT the original source was the Irrawaddy, a Thai-based site formed by Burmese exiles. They're NUG aligned so they're biased. Their factual reporting is... mixed.

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Despite them being supposedly being grounded, a JF-17 was shown bombing MNDAA positions in Laukkai.

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However, a Burmese FTC 2000G / JL-9 literally just fell out of the sky, though.

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The funny thing about these news stories is that there is always a link to an Indian website or it is an article from an alternative source citing Indian authorities.
 

another505

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Well, just because the longest shot was from 190km doesn't necessarily mean the kills were made from that distance, maybe those were launched from a bit closer. Perhaps that might explain the several PL-15 wreckages found (some might have ran out of energy). Still, the article says the range of the PL-15 to be 230 to 280km, wonder where they got that info, and whether that applies to PLAAF version or export version.

Is there any info as to the approximate times of the IAF kills, and also whether the IAF strikes were flying low or higher up? Presumably the PAF CAP must have been high. If low then IAF might have been hampered because their AAMs would have had to snap-up at the PAF CAP, so they had no fire solution before the PAF CAP already had their AAMs on their way, launched probably high and fast.
agree, could have been used to force defensive maneuver. It might have been fired head on too which would be different than a target flying away
 

Sinnavuuty

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Capabilities of the Indian Navy's aircraft carrier Vikrant as a deployed ship in the Arabian Sea during India's Operation Sindur. The infographic shows her movement routes and combat capabilities for use of the ship's standard weapons and deck-based aviation.
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Pakistan's A2/AD capabilities - The graphs below show Pakistan's Anti-Access and Area Denial (A2/AD) capabilities
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It is worth highlighting Pakistan's submarine strength:

> Two Hashmat-class submarines (Agosta-70 built in France), incorporated in the 1990s;
> Three Khalid-class submarines (Agosta-90B built in France), also incorporated in the 1990s, and modernized with the AIP system between 2008 and 2011;
> Three Cosmos-class mini-submarines, built in Italy in the 1980s and used in commando operations, mining and coastal defense; > Two Hangor-class submarines, built in China (out of a total of 8 ordered in 2015). Except for the Cosmos, the rest of the fleet has the capacity to launch ASCMs.

Given the more restricted theater of operations in the Arabian Sea, these are assets that could probably be a concern for the Indian admirals and force them to keep their Carrier Groups at a safe distance, reducing their effectiveness.

The autonomy of an Agosta-70 is 45 days, that of the Agosta-90 is 68 days. There is no data on the Hangor, but they are certainly superior, given their greater displacement. However, the first was launched in 2024, the second less than two months ago. Both are undergoing testing.
 

GulfLander

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Capabilities of the Indian Navy's aircraft carrier Vikrant as a deployed ship in the Arabian Sea during India's Operation Sindur. The infographic shows her movement routes and combat capabilities for use of the ship's standard weapons and deck-based aviation.
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Pakistan's A2/AD capabilities - The graphs below show Pakistan's Anti-Access and Area Denial (A2/AD) capabilities
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It is worth highlighting Pakistan's submarine strength:

> Two Hashmat-class submarines (Agosta-70 built in France), incorporated in the 1990s;
> Three Khalid-class submarines (Agosta-90B built in France), also incorporated in the 1990s, and modernized with the AIP system between 2008 and 2011;
> Three Cosmos-class mini-submarines, built in Italy in the 1980s and used in commando operations, mining and coastal defense; > Two Hangor-class submarines, built in China (out of a total of 8 ordered in 2015). Except for the Cosmos, the rest of the fleet has the capacity to launch ASCMs.

Given the more restricted theater of operations in the Arabian Sea, these are assets that could probably be a concern for the Indian admirals and force them to keep their Carrier Groups at a safe distance, reducing their effectiveness.

The autonomy of an Agosta-70 is 45 days, that of the Agosta-90 is 68 days. There is no data on the Hangor, but they are certainly superior, given their greater displacement. However, the first was launched in 2024, the second less than two months ago. Both are undergoing testing.
How many planes were on deck during that operation?
 
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