What I understand from reading the posts so far.
How big is a PCL191 Battalion?
Oh I see, I was thinking the debate about the "functional" 5th tube was for the 370mm rocket module.
In that case, is the 370mm loaudout module reusable as well?As I understand it, there is no module with 5x 370mm tubes, whether it be functional or not.
I think when he says "standard" he's talking about the export AR3 (which is the export version of the PHL16/191).
As I understand it, the export AR3 has 300mm modules that come in 5x 300mm tube modules that are not particularly reusable.
The domestic PHL16/191 has 300mm modules that come in 4x 300mm tube modules with a central non functional reinforcing tube, but is reusable.
Structurally it doesn't make sense for the 5th tube to be loadable/functional or not dependent on whether they want to reuse it -- because structurally if you want it to act as reinforcement, it would be odd to have the same tube to be able to actually work if you happened to want it to work.
If we look carefully at the domestic PHL16/191 4x 300mm module, we can see that the central "tube" is actually smaller in diameter than the outer four tubes, which lends me to believe that the outer four are the ones which are actually functional, and the central one isn't.
Heck the central tube may not even have the same internal diameter as the other four, meaning it may not even be able to accommodate a 300mm rocket in terms of physical dimensions, even if it wanted to.
I would think it may be useful to think of the "central tube" not as a "tube" but rather as a "reinforcement cylinder" because using the word "tube" would make it seem like it has the option of actually accommodating and launching a rocket.
In other words, the net effect of this hypothesis for the domestic PHL16/191 is:
- 370mm loadout module -- unchanged, still 4x 370mm rockets per module
- 300mm loadout module -- likely reduced from our previous understanding, as 4x 300mm rockets per module with a central reinforcement cylinder (instead of 5x 300mm rockets per module as assumed from the export AR3), however with the caveat that it is designed for more reuse than the AR3 5x 300mm module is.
Thank you for the clarification though I do hope they add the 5th rocket back for the 300mm module but maybe I place more emphasis on the saturation bombardment capability of an MLRS than the PLAGF command (though I do know the 122mm caliber rockets are more suited for the role).As I understand it, there is no module with 5x 370mm tubes, whether it be functional or not.
I think when he says "standard" he's talking about the export AR3 (which is the export version of the PHL16/191).
As I understand it, the export AR3 has 300mm modules that come in 5x 300mm tube modules that are not particularly reusable.
The domestic PHL16/191 has 300mm modules that come in 4x 300mm tube modules with a central non functional reinforcing tube, but is reusable.
Structurally it doesn't make sense for the 5th tube to be loadable/functional or not dependent on whether they want to reuse it -- because structurally if you want it to act as reinforcement, it would be odd to have the same tube to be able to actually work if you happened to want it to work.
If we look carefully at the domestic PHL16/191 4x 300mm module, we can see that the central "tube" is actually smaller in diameter than the outer four tubes, which lends me to believe that the outer four are the ones which are actually functional, and the central one isn't.
Heck the central tube may not even have the same internal diameter as the other four, meaning it may not even be able to accommodate a 300mm rocket in terms of physical dimensions, even if it wanted to.
I would think it may be useful to think of the "central tube" not as a "tube" but rather as a "reinforcement cylinder" because using the word "tube" would make it seem like it has the option of actually accommodating and launching a rocket.
In other words, the net effect of this hypothesis for the domestic PHL16/191 is:
- 370mm loadout module -- unchanged, still 4x 370mm rockets per module
- 300mm loadout module -- likely reduced from our previous understanding, as 4x 300mm rockets per module with a central reinforcement cylinder (instead of 5x 300mm rockets per module as assumed from the export AR3), however with the caveat that it is designed for more reuse than the AR3 5x 300mm module is.
Perhaps the 4 x 300mm module is only for use whilst there are still 300mm rockets in stock, and the long term aim is to convert completely to 370mm?
big brain comment right here
