Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher

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Self-explanatory.

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no_name

Colonel
^^^ Looks almost as big as type055 in some of the pics took by CCTV.
Seriously they need to take proper military pictures like these.
 
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Tam

Brigadier
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Gloire_bb said:
Bigger caliber doesn't matter for SP artillery with automatic loading.
Rate of fire for larger guns isn't all that slower, as it's loading limited(thermal limitations for the barrel are quite far away). Historical 8" automatic guns exceeded 14 RPM cyclical, i.e. higher than almost all modern SP guns.
2S7 shoots and scoots quite fine, basically like any similar gun.
And if any SPG is spotted by an UAV, it's vulnerable to attack.

6" artillery is closely tied to human loading and logistics. As soon as it isn't the issue, it's fallacy.
Small to medium artillery, per Ukraine, are indeed good, but it doesn't mean that the trend is downwards.

What's bad is single 6" solution. It is neither strong enough(it's reasonably counterable by field forrifications and heavy armor) for many uses, and 6" shells are still damn hard to manufacture at war scale.

6" unification made sense for late 20th century mechanized warfare - preferably in a short, intensive conflict, leveraging prewar stocks.
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I think handling and logistics are big issues. Big enough to be crucial. 203mm shells are huge when shown in the footage. While there's glowing praise on the ballistics and the effect, since the Soviet Union no one thinks they're the future of the battlefield and I don't see anyone going bigger.

As for the 122mm, it's popular due to its size, handling and convenience, and it looks accurate and it works. It's beyond battle proven by now.
 
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Wrought

Wrought

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oseaidjubzac said:
A brigade of the 81st Group Army of the PLA is training with the PHL-11 tracked self-propelled rocket launcher.
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That's the PHZ-11. PHL-11 is tracked.

There is no such thing as a "tracked PHL-11" because PHL is literally 轮式 (wheeled). Likewise PHZ = 自行 (self-propelled, i.e. tracked). For both of them, PH = 炮兵火箭 (rocket artillery). It's all in the name.
 
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oseaidjubzac

Junior Member
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Wrought said:
That's the PHZ-11. PHL-11 is tracked.

There is no such thing as a "tracked PHL-11" because PHL is literally 轮式 (wheeled). Likewise PHZ = 自行 (self-propelled, i.e. tracked). For both of them, PH = 炮兵火箭 (rocket artillery). It's all in the name.
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You are right, I typed it wrong.
 
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