Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher

An image showing the moment a mortar round leaves the barrel of a PLL05.

High-resolution images of PCL-181.

Gloire_bb said:

PGK kits have potential to go to within several times of a shell cost. Or maybe lower - mechanically they're simple and mass-producable enough.
Strictly speaking, they're even now less expensive than, say, first modern explosive shells with mechanical fuze were compared to ball munition.
It's a matter of production numbers, ultimately.

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People usually don’t realize that mechanical fuses are expensive too

PLL-09 122mm wheeled SPH firing procedure. It looks super old school with manual paper calculation, hand crank for elevation, and all that. It seems like they just chuck a D-30 variant onto a ZBL-08 chassis and call it a day.

I do wonder if PLA will modernize these with computerized FCS and electric elevation & traverse (If it didn't have those already).

The Observer said:

PLL-09 122mm wheeled SPH firing procedure. It looks super old school with manual paper calculation, hand crank for elevation, and all that. It seems like they just chuck a D-30 variant onto a ZBL-08 chassis and call it a day.

I do wonder if PLA will modernize these with computerized FCS and electric elevation & traverse (If it didn't have those already).

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Watch it again. They compared the old school method with the digital FCS method starting at 11:45. The old method took 4 minutes 35 seconds but the new method only took 45 seconds

vincent said:

Watch it again. They compared the old school method with the digital FCS method starting at 11:45. The old method took 4 minutes 35 seconds but the new method only took 45 seconds

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whoops.... My mistake

hello
does china have a howitzer similiar in performance to the M1299 prototype

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typexx said:

hello
does china have a howitzer similiar in performance to the M1299 prototype

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PLAGF uses rockets

typexx said:

hello
does china have a howitzer similiar in performance to the M1299 prototype

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China's current 155 mm SPGs achieve similar rates of fire and ranges. The ERCA is the US catching up with Europe and China. They will be a bit ahead when the ERCA becomes operational but not by much.

China also has the PLZ-05B in development. We might see upgrades in barrel length, max pressure and chamber size. Everyone expects it to be significantly heavier than the current vehicle. The PLC-181 fills the need for a light and affordable 155 mm howitzer. And anything beyond 80 km would get a 300 mm or 370 mm rocket.

Extending the barrel by another 6 calibers is the next gen of artillery? Haha, they better not blow the budget and weight again or tread the path of the Navy's AGS again.