Russian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.

Broccoli

Broccoli

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Tam said:
Does not make sense at all, because Ukraine is bleeding out at a far faster rate than Russia. Ukraine has its gdp effectively halved by the invasion, its electrical and transportation infrastructure is severely damaged if not destroyed in many places and unable to import and export by sea due to the blockade and effective loss of ports. If Ukraine losses the south its economically crippled for life, being effectively land locked, and the south is heavy Russian speaking. A lot of Ukrainian income comes from the passage of Russian gas and oil through pipelines. All the refugees mean a significant loss of Ukrainian labor to man their factories.

It does not make sense at all because it's Ukrainian lives that are being destroyed in a far faster rate and they are of all people cannot afford a long term war that will destroy their country. The country isn't just Europe's bread basket, it's also it's basket case. Years of war will reduce the country from third world status to an Afghanistan-Syria level of status.

Not to mention the global recession that's coming.
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According to who?
 
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gelgoog

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I don't know. You tell me who banned all male citizens aged 18-60 years from leaving their country. And is now pressing territorial defense units into the front lines. In the last week the Russians keep facing 50 year old men. I doubt those are regular army units.
I have little doubt the Ukrainians still retain a lot of their combat potential but they seem to be running out of men faster than the Russians, and the Russians had less men in the field to begin with. Despite having a potentially 3x or more larger manpower pool.
 
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Janiz

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gelgoog said:
I don't know. You tell me who banned all male citizens aged 18-60 years from leaving their country. And is now pressing territorial defense units into the front lines.
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I'm guessing DPR and LPR? Sorry, it's Ukraine. Donetsk republics don't have defense units anymore as those lost more than 50% of men in this war already.

Those two are using civilians in conflict now.

And let's not forget that Russia started partial mobilization of reservists around a year ago. A lot of things went wrong for them it seems but it's not like nothing was happening in Russia for a longer period of time.
 
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manqiangrexue

manqiangrexue

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Broccoli said:
According to who?
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Common sense. Russia might be having more challenges than it thought but at least it's still an operating country. Ukraine is basically anarchy in most parts, and some parts aren't even Ukranian anymore. Russia's bleeding from cuts but Ukraine's having its limbs and chunks of its body lopped off.
Maikeru said:
Lord Cope of Cope Hall.
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Sounds British. Is he the same British guy from yesterday whose sigh of resignation over the decline of his empire and nation's global status/power can be felt from Pluto?
Maikeru said:
Russian losses so far are staggering:

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Compare them to Ukranian losses and the general situation of Ukraine as a country... what's left of it.
 
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gelgoog

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Janiz said:
I'm guessing DPR and LPR? Sorry, it's Ukraine. Donetsk republics don't have defense units anymore as those lost more than 50% of men in this war already.
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The Donbass Republics had horrendous combat losses sure. But they still managed to get a like 1:1 exchange ratio despite having way lower manpower and worse equipment. You can't even call their equipment Soviet grade. This is one area where Russia failed, I think, not giving the Republics proper equipment. There is no reason why they can't be using the SVD instead of their great grandfather's Mosin-Nagant for example.

Janiz said:
Those two are using civilians in conflict now.
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Yes, Russia is using Russian Ukrainians and the US is using other Ukrainians.
But Russia isn't sending their own civilians into combat unlike your claims.

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And let's not forget that Russia started partial mobilization of reservists around a year ago. A lot of things went wrong for them it seems but it's not like nothing was happening in Russia for a longer period of time.
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Good that they did. That is actually a smart thing to do. You know training troops BEFORE a war. Not during.
 
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gelgoog

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I am not a big fan of the kill count concept. There is loads of experience of these numbers being bogus on all conflicts.
The Russian army reports are useful in figuring out which types of targets and places they are striking at. But I wouldn't take the counts of destroyed targets too seriously. And don't even let me mention Ukraine's government published numbers... Total BS.
The Ukrainian government news even knowingly promote false news and false narratives as actual news. From the plausible, to the wildly fantastic.
 
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gelgoog

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Ukraine hasn't even made an accurate census of their population for several years. Their last census was in 2001. Some sources estimated 7 million had left Ukraine in search of better economic prospects elsewhere. Mostly to Poland and Russia. And that was before the war even started. And guess what, economic migrants are typically neither old people nor children, but people of working age. I have heard numbers as high as 8 million leaving Ukraine since the conflict started.
 
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