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wilhelm

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That "article" by Business Insider is terrible.
An article quoting an article, with massive leaps of "logic" based on twisted and distorted quotes from a politician.
The articles claims actually do not correlate even with the alleged quotes.
Also, Justin Bronk has history when it comes to "analysing" certain countries.

Pure clickbait.
There is so much rubbish out there, all in pursuit of more clicks.
 

Pmichael

Junior Member
Fluff is a statement containing no substance - I have provided some to support my arguments in that post, however.

Your own point, on the other hand... you might have had a good argument if you'd been talking about the decade before the past decade (and given the anemic economy, the coming one may be difficult once more). As for the period 2008 to 2018 though, let's try some facts again, ok?

~70 Su-35S
~100 Su-30SM
~100 Su-34

2 Yasen-class SSN
3 Borey-class SSBN

~20 S-400 battalions

+ lot's of stuff I simply have little interest in.

More tactical combat aircraft than France has ordered (let alone taken delivery of) Rafales, 33% of their SSN fleet and 75% of their SSBN fleet - all in the space of 10 years. Sure, it falls *well* short of the US or China (both of which have much more money to burn), but probably compares very favourably to anyone outside those two. Substance, not fluff.

The joke is that what you listed is indeed not a lot. Not enough to maintain the status quo.
 

timepass

Brigadier
Russia’s ‘stealth-killer’ fighter project has been abandoned . . .

MOSCOW boasted it had a new world-beater: The Su-57 stealth fighter. It was smart. It was sneaky. It was lethal. Turns out, it’s none of those things.

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timepass

Brigadier
The Capabilities of Russia's Iskander Ballistic Missile System; Can U.S. Air Defences Intercept Them?

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Tirdent

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Russia’s ‘stealth-killer’ fighter project has been abandoned . . .

MOSCOW boasted it had a new world-beater: The Su-57 stealth fighter. It was smart. It was sneaky. It was lethal. Turns out, it’s none of those things.

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I don't mean to shoot the messenger, but what's the purpose of posting an article which is merely a copy-cat of an earlier one that has already been comprehensively refuted?

It even fails to correct the flagrant misquote of deputy PM Borisov - if anything could be worse journalism than the catastrophically inaccurate original, it would be to reurgitate the same tripe without so much as an attempt to fix the most glaringly obvious errors. Probably because, as we saw previously, addressing those points automatically removes the very foundation from the entire narrative (so there is no story in the first place), but that's the author's problem to deal with.
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
news.com.au is the worst of journalism. Everything they write is pure tabloid and only good for a lighthearted viewing. Do not take anything seriously. They gravitate towards controversial topics and exaggerate for effect. Now only time will tell us what the Su-57 is and isn't. Even then we'll probably never know because when nuclear powers go to war, armageddon follows.
 

nicky

Junior Member
two parallel developments&standart procedures:
new generation jets tested at regular flight test centers - Dingxin and Akhtubinsk (with flight tests missions to Tibet and Syria);
new generation jets then passed on to regular Air Force training centers - Cangzhou and Lipetsk (both this year), where they start to form first regular service squadrons.
production in both countries will be (very?) limited - no need for more.
 
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