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Russia has shown that they can still build great smaller vessels - frigates/corvettes etc, but still with longer than expected build/commissioning cycles. their Achilles Heel though is very much the design/build/commission of larger vessels - and I include submarines firmly in this category. They need to seriously review their process chainand bring their production/commissioning rates up to a higher level.

Not to mention those frigates and corvettes could still launch long range cruise missiles as well as we have seen before earlier this year in the Black Sea.
 

FORBIN

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Now seems 4 Tu-22Ms but maybe refuel only on the Iranian base, to see in more Mozdok is in worcks for a 2nd runway so maybe use Iranian AB for this reason.

8 Su-34 deployed in Iran, seems yesterdau armed with a heavy load maybe with this operations we going for know her max weapons load right now approx datas.

Russian Su-34s operating from Iran

Due to a requirement to launch more air strikes in the east and north-east of Syria, Russia has begun using an Iran’s Hamedan air base as a refueling point for Tupolev Tu-22M3 bombers and the Russian Ministry of Defense has said the base is now accommodating a detachment of eight Su-34s, which began operations from Iran today.

On August 15, four Tu-22Ms arrived at the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force’s (IRIAF) 3rd Tactical Fighter Base (TFB.3) Nojeh (Shahrokhi).
Soon after their arrival, the Tu-22M3s, each loaded with 10 OFAB-250-270s, flew in two separate two-ship formations to bomb Nusra Front militants in the Aleppo, Idlib and Deir ez-Zor provinces.

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antiterror13

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Yeah but China could make it more painful and expensive for the Vietnamese as well, plus the PLAN can afford to recover any losses, meanwhile Vietnam can't. So whatever "messages" that the Vietnamese think that they're sending is pretty much moot. Yes times has changed and the Vietnamese armed forces has somewhat improved IMO, but it's not enough. In the end if there is (We all hope not of course) numbers with quality always wins out.

The purchase of 6 Kilos by Vietnam for US$2.6B is (in my opinion) way too much for Vietnamese economy to digest ... its like 1.3% of total GDP!

The analogy is like China to spend US$150B or the USA to spend US$240B for just single weapon system .... thats the magnitude of the purchase of 6 Kilos to Vietnamese economy .... huge!!!!
 

FORBIN

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Now seems 4 Tu-22Ms but maybe refuel only on the Iranian base, to see in more Mozdok is in worcks for a 2nd runway so maybe use Iranian AB for this reason.

8 Su-34 deployed in Iran, seems yesterdau armed with a heavy load maybe with this operations we going for know her max weapons load right now approx datas.

For weapons load in video, pics seems old footage from Russian MOD !


Su-34

For very soon the 100th delivered whose 8 proto/pre series right now about 98.
1 lost
In order after the 100th + 24 : 124 but ofc new after for repalced at less Su-24M/M2 remains 110 and eventually Su-24MR 80 in service.

Actually the Rgt to Khurba/Konsomolsk receive yet 4 on 24

After normaly planned for :
Monchegorsk 12 a Sqn
Chelyabinsk Shagol 24 a Rgt
 

Jeff Head

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For weapons load in video, pics seems old footage from Russian MOD !


Su-34

For very soon the 100th delivered whose 8 proto/pre series right now about 98.
1 lost
In order after the 100th + 24 : 124 but ofc new after for repalced at less Su-24M/M2 remains 110 and eventually Su-24MR 80 in service.

Actually the Rgt to Khurba/Konsomolsk receive yet 4 on 24

After normaly planned for :
Monchegorsk 12 a Sqn
Chelyabinsk Shagol 24 a Rgt
Yes...the SU-34 is ne of the bright spots in the Russian new equipment category. Great aircraft and they are starting to accumulate some serious numbers.
 
dumb question: what is it like opening up behind the cockpit (it appears to be yellow):
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(comes from a blog post about the Su-30SMs coming back from the deployment in Syria:
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FORBIN

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Exactly i think since several days...

Russian Bombers in Iran: Misleading Operational Justification, Serious Geopolitical Significance

Russia’s ability to deploy bombers in Iran for sorties in Syria has less operational significance than either Moscow or Tehran would have us believe. But the geopolitical impact is substantial, both for Russia’s claims to superpower status, and for Iran’s positioning as a pre-eminent regional power.
Six Russian Tupolev Tu-22M3 strategic bombers, known as ‘Backfires’ in the West, have now been deployed from the Hamedan Air Base in Iran against targets in Syria. Alongside these, an unknown number of powerful, modern Sukhoi Su-34 ‘Fullback’ fighter bombers are also conducting operations from bases in Iran, having previously been deployed from Latakia Air Base in Syria before being withdrawn by Russian President Vladimir Putin amid great publicity in March 2016.

The official reasons given for these deployments have been operational: Tu-22M bombers have previously had to fly round trips of up to 3,000 miles from their bases in Russia to bomb targets in Syria. Now, flying distance to their usual targets in and around Aleppo will be cut by up to 60%, theoretically allowing greater responsiveness and sortie rates. There are, however, problems with this explanation.

The Tu-22M was developed during the 1970s primarily as a maritime strike bomber which could attack US nuclear carrier battlegroups at long range with cruise missiles. However, since the end of the Cold War, this aircraft has performed the role of long-range conventional bombing with a hefty payload of unguided bombs. Over Syria, this has meant that the Tu-22M has been responsible for regular carpet bombing of besieged cities such as Aleppo, as well as other large targets such as military bases, where precision is not an important consideration. The effect on defenders’ morale of heavy bombing is certainly significant. Specific military positions are almost impossible to hit reliably from the standard Tu-22M3 bombing altitude of around 15,000 ft, and civilian casualties are extremely high.

In operational terms, basing Tu-22Ms at Hamedan in Iran offers the potential to cut at least 60% from the time needed to fly each combat mission over Syria, compared to the time taken to fly from Russian bases. However, while this will increase Russia’s potential capability to generate Tu-22M sorties over Syria, the effect is likely to be relatively modest, since sortie duration is only one of several factors limiting the number of sustained strikes that Russia’s Tu-22M fleet can generate.
Due to the often dire state of funding that the Russian bomber fleet has experienced since the Tu-22M was introduced into frontline service in the late 1970s, maintenance and quality- control standards have always been patchy, and the standard of crew training and experience is on average very low compared to US equivalents. Plagued by low serviceability as well as a small number of sufficiently qualified and current aircrew as well as old airframes needing a lot of maintenance, the Tu-22M is not an aircraft that delivers high sortie rates under even the best of circumstances.

It is also not clear whether Russia has invested or plans to invest in the large munitions stores, maintenance crew numbers and stores of spare parts that are required to operate the Tu-22M at any significant tempo for more than a few days. Without such investment – which would represent a long-term commitment to base aircraft in Iran – sortie rates over Syria might actually be lower for the bombers flying from Iran, with only limited support infrastructure, than they would have been for the same aircraft flying much longer missions as part of a fleet of almost 100 aircraft from established bases in Russia.

The much more modern and versatile Su-34 fighter bombers, which have also been deployed to Iran in unknown numbers, carry a smaller payload but can employ almost any air-to-ground weapon in Russia’s inventory, including precision-guided bombs and missiles for close air support of friendly ground forces. They are therefore a much more useful resource in most combat situations than Tu-22Ms and can also pose a latent threat to Western aircraft as they are a highly capable fighter aircraft. However, the Su-34 previously operated from Latakia in Syria and so will now experience longer transit times to targets in Syria than during its previous participation in the conflict.

So it is not the case that the deployment of Su-34s to Iran gives Russia substantial operational advantages over previous arrangements. But since Russia lost four advanced helicopter gunships to Daesh (also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria or ISIS) bombardments of an airfield in Eastern Homs in May 2016 and the Su-34 is Russia’s newest operational combat aircraft with significant propaganda value, basing them in Iran may be viewed by Moscow as a less risky option than their return to airfields in Syria.

Deployment of Russian bomber aircraft to Iran offers far more geopolitical than operational advantages to both nations. For Russia, it is a way to show that her Air Force can do what once was the sole preserve of the US Air Force: to deploy strategic bombers for combat missions to forward bases in allied countries. This is one of the pillars of US power-projection capabilities and Russia is showing that it can do the same, albeit on a much smaller scale and with far less capable aircraft.

Equally, while regional US allies such as the United Arab Emirates gains significant status in the Middle East from having the bulk of US strategic combat power based at their airfields, Iran can now plausibly claim that it has its own ally with superpower pretentions basing strategic bombers on its territory.

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FORBIN

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Logic 1 old + 6 new

Russian Navy Black Sea Fleet Naval Base will be Able to Accommodate up to 7 Submarines

A naval base currently under construction in Novorossiysk in south Russia will receive up to seven diesel-electric submarines at a time, Head of the 4th Main Department of the Russian Federal Agency for Special Construction (Spetsstroy) Mikhail Tashlyk said.

"The first berths have already received the new-generation submarines Novorossiysk, Rostov-on-Don and Stary Oskol," Tashlyk said.

"The naval base will be able to accommodate up to seven same-type or promising diesel-electric submarines," he added.

According to the department’s head, the design of the pier is unique as its basis is formed by inclined drilled piles with a length of up to 50 meters depending on the depth and a weight of 20 tons.

"All parameters are record-breaking for Russia. The total length of the protecting structures is almost 2.5 kilometers [1.5 miles]. They have been built at depths of up to 27 meters,"
Tashlyk said. "All these structures have been ranked 5th in the rating of the longest and deepest hydro technical facilities of the same type," he added.

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