The Battle of ChiBi was single biggest mistake Cao Cao ever made, I think he was a little over confident because of his sucess. If Cao Cao managed to win this battle, he probably will unite China very soon. Actually the east wind is not totally his fault, since he thought that the wind will not blow east done to the fact that they never did in this time of period in the northern China. But he was wrong, the Wu took the advantage and managed to shock Cao Cao. Like I said before eventhrough with overwhelming superiority in numbers, Cao Cao failed to seize the initiative. He also sacrificld his mobility by lashing his hundreds of vessels togehter. Cao Cao's troop were not good in naval warfare, and his arrogance made him negligence. The Wu's troops are actually superior in naval warefare. Zhou Yu was a as much a genius as Zhuge Liang was, the the Romance of the Three kingdoms really unfairly understated his military ability. The single thing that I can't understand is why after the defeat, Cao Cao did not gather his forces to fight, if he did the Wei would not suffered so much. Cao Cao really failed big time in ChiBi, he is not acting as he used to be. Cao Cao as a good military strategist had lost his reputation, if he just managed to do better the history will change forever.
Romance Of The Three Kingdoms
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TheHarkonnen
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I wonder why none of his advisors thought of a possible fire attack. So how could've Cao Cao won? Besides maybe having a nuke missile or two. . . (lol)
TheHarkonnen said:I wonder why none of his advisors thought of a possible fire attack. So how could've Cao Cao won? Besides maybe having a nuke missile or two. . . (lol)
After he was defeated in Chi Bi, Cao Cao did regret that his best advisor, Guo Jia, died at young age. He implied that if Guo Jia had alive, he would not lose the war at all.
Cao Cao did thought about the fire attack, it was just without the wind the damage will not be significant. Wu's naval don't have the resources to launch attack on all of the Cao Cao's vessels.TheHarkonnen said:I wonder why none of his advisors thought of a possible fire attack. So how could've Cao Cao won? Besides maybe having a nuke missile or two. . . (lol)
Cao Cao should not be lashing his hundreds of vessels togehter and never put majority of his troops on the ships. This in term gave Cao Cao's mobility necessary to win. Cao Cao should attack first, the fire attack won't work by then. Since Cao Cao had more resources, in the long run Wu can't match Cao Cao. Eventhrough Zhou Yu was a very good military strategist, Wei's troops are way superior than Wu's troops. Actually in the Battle of ChiBi Cao Cao was in the height of his power, as long as he did not messed up. Cao Cao should be able to defeat Wu.
Anthrophobia
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The direction of the wind made a fire attack impossible when CaoCao was about to launch his attack. It just happens that the wind direction changed. Better weather forecasters for Wu's side I assume.
TheHarkonnen
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What role did Taiwan play during this period?
KYli said:
Actually, Taiwan does have something to do with China this period of time.
Wu, one of the three kingdoms in this era, once sent over 10,000 men to Taiwan. San Guo Zhi (a history book) by Chen Shou said this happend at A.D 230. Sun Quan, the King of Wu, sent his generals Wei Wen and Zhuge Zhi, along with over 10,000 soliders oversea to look for Taiwan and another island. They only reached Taiwan, and conquered Taiwan for some years. However, because of the desease and plague, they had to leave Taiwan after a short period.
mindreader
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KYli said:
Actually, a bit of correction. Wu was the first to colonize Taiwan. This little fact was pretty well documented though often neglected.
In the grand scheme of things though, Taiwan was largely insignificant during that period.