Renminbi (RMB)/Yuan Appreciation & Internationalization

CMP said:

It got delayed by Western sabotage that killed 3 Chinese and temporarily suspended operations.

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There is no evidence of any sabotoge. Mining accidents are not rare, unfortunately.

Wrought said:

There is no evidence of any sabotoge. Mining accidents are not rare, unfortunately.

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Of course any evidence would be destroyed and/or buried when a mine shaft gets collapsed.

CMP said:

Of course any evidence would be destroyed and/or buried when a mine shaft gets collapsed.

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But you can't just imagine that it exists... Your process for determining if something is true can't be that if there is evidence, then it's true and if there isn't evidence then it's true and the evidence must be hidden.

manqiangrexue said:

But you can't just imagine that it exists... Your process for determining if something is true can't be that if there is evidence, then it's true and if there isn't evidence then it's true and the evidence must be hidden.

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I am not trying to determine whether this is true.

CMP said:

I am not trying to determine whether this is true.

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Then why make the claim of sabotage if you have no clue whether it's actually true? Anyone can say anything without proof.

Wrought said:

Then why make the claim of sabotage if you have no clue whether it's actually true? Anyone can say anything without proof.

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We live in a world in which a handful of the most hypocritical and evil governments frequently use mass produced lies, fake or fabricated proof, false flags, try to convince everyone that fake genocides are real, while trying to pretend real genocides are not happening, and use all sorts of other despicable and underhanded means to achieve their ends. In comparison, blowing up an African mine shaft and killing 3 Chinese in the process is child's play, hardly even worth batting an eye at. Regardless of whether you can ultimately pin the crime on them or not, it's a small and relatively harmless crime in the grand scheme of things. In other words, it really doesn't even matter whether they did it or not. What really matters is whether the outcome benefits or harms them. If it benefits them, at best they're cheering for the occurrence of a small miracle they had no hand in, and at worst they committed a very small crime compared to the large scale crimes they commit basically every decade in the past few centuries. Getting all picky about the lack of evidence for this mineshaft situation is like getting picky that someone is accusing Hitler of jaywalking without any evidence of it. It may or may not be true, but the crime is irrelevant compared to everything else they have done.

Maikeru said:

When is this Guinea mine coming online? China should get the bul of its iron ore from there and tell BHP to shove it.

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Saw some douyin video, seems ceremony(?) For the iron ore railway system in Guinea.

CMP said:

Getting all picky about the lack of evidence for this mineshaft situation is like getting picky that someone is accusing Hitler of jaywalking without any evidence of it. It may or may not be true, but the crime is irrelevant compared to everything else they have done.

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It is relevant because you made the claim. If it's not relevant, then you don't need to bring it up here at all. And whatever other problems can be discussed elsewhere.

Wrought said:

It is relevant because you made the claim. If it's not relevant, then you don't need to bring it up here at all. And whatever other problems can be discussed elsewhere.

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Indeed, the biggest accusers of completely false crimes certainly do deserve to be shielded from unproven accusations. Your position is clear.

CMP said:

I am not trying to determine whether this is true.

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What? You're not trying to determine if something you claimed is actually true? Are you aware that you should first determine if something is true before claiming that it's true?

CMP said:

We live in a world in which a handful of the most hypocritical and evil governments frequently use mass produced lies, fake or fabricated proof, false flags, try to convince everyone that fake genocides are real, while trying to pretend real genocides are not happening, and use all sorts of other despicable and underhanded means to achieve their ends. In comparison, blowing up an African mine shaft and killing 3 Chinese in the process is child's play, hardly even worth batting an eye at. Regardless of whether you can ultimately pin the crime on them or not, it's a small and relatively harmless crime in the grand scheme of things. In other words, it really doesn't even matter whether they did it or not. What really matters is whether the outcome benefits or harms them. If it benefits them, at best they're cheering for the occurrence of a small miracle they had no hand in, and at worst they committed a very small crime compared to the large scale crimes they commit basically every decade in the past few centuries. Getting all picky about the lack of evidence for this mineshaft situation is like getting picky that someone is accusing Hitler of jaywalking without any evidence of it. It may or may not be true, but the crime is irrelevant compared to everything else they have done.

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It doesn't matter if it's true??!! Then don't say it's true. If what matters is if the outcome benefits or harms them, then analyze that. Don't say things if you have no evidence to claim that they are true. It's a simple concept of being a reliable non-scummy human being. Lies are the most annoying and pathetic thing about Western media. Don't emulate them.