QBZ-191 service rifle family


MwRYum

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That's not paint chipping, that's just how a rifle's surface responds to repeated use and drill over time, with abrasion and friction...
I think what they're trying to say is that how come a new AR, inducted with just 1-2 years time, sported such degree of wear and tear? Is it due to the quality of surface treatment, or is it that the PLA run their ware hard?
 

Blitzo

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I think what they're trying to say is that how come a new AR, inducted with just 1-2 years time, sported such degree of wear and tear? Is it due to the quality of surface treatment, or is it that the PLA run their ware hard?

I know what they're trying to say.

I'm saying there's nothing about this rifle that jumps out as particularly abnormal for one that's been in use for 1-2 years.


.... Like come on, they are literally pointing out the magwell and the bolt release as some places on the rifle which shows a bit of signs of abrasion. I bet if you turned the rifle over you'd see the charging handle like that as well. Which should be as expected given they're the parts of the rifle you'd train with the most and wear at the most.
 

wssth0306

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But are those actual paint chips or dirt that has scuffed onto the weapon. The kind you often get on the black furniture of camera equipment that isn’t actually damage, and is just dirt that can be brushed off?
could be , that as in the video I link somehow I don't think that is the case , it just bit to shinny not be just exposed metal
 

wssth0306

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I know what they're trying to say.

I'm saying there's nothing about this rifle that jumps out as particularly abnormal for one that's been in use for 1-2 years.


.... Like come on, they are literally pointing out the magwell and the bolt release as some places on the rifle which shows a bit of signs of abrasion. I bet if you turned the rifle over you'd see the charging handle like that as well. Which should be as expected given they're the parts of the rifle you'd train with the most and wear at the most.
I agree , I fully expect that the other side of the gun is also has abrasion sign .
None of this is saying this gun is poor made or something , for all I know it might just be that they yet have the spare parts to change the receiver and do maintenance on it and the priority right now is to give soldiers as much hands on time as they could.

Another guess is ,the training guns , as in the rubber made training aid hasn't enter wide service .

Still it is just a bit weird
I am sure many M4s in American inventory looks far worse then this , they just don't show it to the cameras.
My guess is the Type-191 is still short on inventory .Since for a given unit, you will need more then 1 rifle per soldier
precisely because you run the gear hard.
 

by78

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Female paratroopers in CQC training.

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RedMetalSeadramon

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I know what they're trying to say.

I'm saying there's nothing about this rifle that jumps out as particularly abnormal for one that's been in use for 1-2 years.


.... Like come on, they are literally pointing out the magwell and the bolt release as some places on the rifle which shows a bit of signs of abrasion. I bet if you turned the rifle over you'd see the charging handle like that as well. Which should be as expected given they're the parts of the rifle you'd train with the most and wear at the most.
I swear the whingeing about minor non-issues here is stupefying. Next someone is going to complain that the take down pins aren't a specific RBG color.
 

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