Protonmail/ ProtonVPN likely subverted... use with caution...

BMEWS

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Protonmail is donating its profit to help "free hong kong" but when clarification was sought if it would remain objectively neutral and offer the same protections when the US banned and censored both WeChat and TikTok, the official response was

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/ht95xs
Peanuts... nothing, nadda, they totally ignored it

Then trolls on there claiming the original post seeking commitment from Protonmail to remain neutral, with objective application of standards, etc was itself being accused of CCP trolling etc etc etc
 
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BMEWS

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So recently Protonmail published a blog strongly urging all its users to delete TikTok app because of alleged privacy and security reasons. Yet Protonmail company also runs a VPN (ProtoVPN) that itself was exposed as having 'accidentally' shared signing keys with another VPN company... and merely a few days later when asked if Protonmail would commit to being objectively nuetral in its stances/principle when protecting the internet/communication freedoms of users of TikTok/WeChat when/if the US administration bans theses apps, Protonmail went silence and not a word was uttered... yet they are at the same time giving donations to Hong Kong "freedom", writing blog posts in support of Hong Kong internet circumvention of the Chinese National Security Law, but when pressed if the situation was ever reversed would Proton/VPN take the same stance in protecting the internet freedoms of users of WeChat/TikTok against the bans of the US government, Protonmail not only went silent, it turned around a few days later and publicly posted that its position was that it strongly urged all its users to immediately delete and stop using TikTok! The hypocrisy and double standards could not be more clear, and many of Protonmail's pressers read much like that of what the CIA would post..
 

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btw a while back Huawei was in talks to adopt Protonmail as gmail competitor

I guess now we know why talks broke down!!!!
 

BMEWS

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The fact that Protonmail /ProtonVPN/Proton

1) Is donating their own money to help "Free" Hong Kong; openly called for insurrection etc
2) Said they will openly skirt the Chinese National Security law and help others circumvent the China security laws
3) Coerced their users to immediately delete/stop using TikTok and WeChat
4) Refused to commit to being neutral and objective when directly asked about if they would go to the same lengths of protecting users against US government requests for user information and/or censorship of apps like TikTok/WeChat the same way as they committed to helping Hong Kongers circumvent Chinese national security laws etc
5) Not only refused to commit to being neutral and objective and applying their own principles in a consistent and unbiased/objective manner, but then turn around and dictate to their userbase to immediately stop using TikTok etc and to basically become entirely political, picking and choosing sides and has become the sort of hypocritical "we believe in freedom of speech as long as you say the things we agree with" sort of doublethink
6) Owner is Taiwanese (openly anti-China) and they have been caught co-mingling data with other shady VPN providers in the past, including sharing the same building, even sharing the same app signing/encryption keys as NordVPN and other equally shady bad actors! which they openly admitted to doing this when called out on it then tried to bury the information!
7) They have taken money from motivated government agencies and are not "free from influence" unlike what they pitched and their fake "how we started at CERN" story that they ran for the multiple crowdfunding IndieGoGo campaigns that got the project initially off the ground...

Stay far far away from this CIA honeypot... use offline PGP instead, don't trust their service since they have in the past acquiesced to US demands and sent malicious javacript login pages to delivered to targeted users in order to get their mailbox decryption password... and then turned plaintext over to the US government (or the keys for decryption etc)....
 

BMEWS

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The gloves have come off, the CIA is now blatantly cashing in on its earlier investments

Instead of just blog posts, Protonmail now mass spamming all its users worldwide to Stand with Hong Kong and to circumvent and subvert the Chinese CCP



 
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