PRC military aviation export/sales

lcloo

lcloo

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Black Wolf said:
I do wonder how they're going to manage the logistics of such a diverse fighter fleet. They already operates F-16s, Su-27s, Su-30s & T-50is, with Rafales also entering service. Adding J-10CEs means yet another aircraft type from a different supplier, with its own training pipeline, maintenance requirements, spare parts inventory, weapons integration & support infrastructure.

From a force-planning perspective, that's a remarkably diverse fleet. It will be interesting to see how they balance the operational benefits of diversification against the complexity & cost of sustaining so many different platforms.
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It is not easy but manageable when the numbers are small, with logistic and maintenance depots located close to the relevant operational units. Example all T-50 parts inventory depot located near the T-50 operation stations.

It might be more chaotic if they attempt to centralize all inventory parts in one place.
 
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4Tran

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Black Wolf said:
I do wonder how they'll handle the logistics of such a diverse fighter fleet. They already operate F-16s, Su-27s, Su-30s, and T-50is, with Rafales also entering service. Adding J-10CEs means yet another aircraft type with its own training, maintenance, spare parts, weapons & support requirements.
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Don't forget that Indonesia is Korea's main partner in the KF-21 program so they'll be getting some of those as well. It's definitely going to be a mess for anyone who has to manage all these planes. Then again, Indonesia is one of those countries that doesn't have any security concerns so they can get away with this kind of mess.
 
Black Wolf

Black Wolf

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lcloo said:
It is not easy but manageable when the numbers are small, with logistic and maintenance depots located close to the relevant operational units. Example all T-50 parts inventory depot located near the T-50 operation stations.

It might be more chaotic if they attempt to centralize all inventory parts in one place.
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That’s true to an extent, but there are still examples of air forces operating fairly diverse fleets at scale. Pakistan, for instance, has historically operated a mix that included F-16s, Mirage III/Vs & F-7PGs & today also fields JF-17s (BLK-III) & J-10CEs alongside the remaining legacy platforms.

So, while decentralized logistics & proximity of depots to operating units definitely help, mixed fleets are not unusual in practice. The key issue is usually how the operator balances standardisation versus access to multiple suppliers & capabilities over time.
 
00CuriousObserver

00CuriousObserver

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They might be upgrading a base specifically for the unit, so it might not be that bad.

See here

00CuriousObserver said:
J-10 showed up on a slide at an air base in Indonesia. It was apparently posted on their Instagram page, but I cannot find the original post.

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Black Wolf

Black Wolf

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4Tran said:
Don't forget that Indonesia is Korea's main partner in the KF-21 program so they'll be getting some of those as well. It's definitely going to be a mess for anyone who has to manage all these planes. Then again, Indonesia is one of those countries that doesn't have any security concerns so they can get away with this kind of mess.
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KF-21 would add another layer to Indonesia’s already mixed fleet, so the sustainment complexity point is fair.

But saying Indonesia has “no security concerns” is an oversimplification. Its geography & maritime environment create broad & dispersed operational requirements, which is often a key driver behind diversification rather than just a matter of choice.
 
siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

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Maikeru said:
Actually makes sense if you want to maintain sovereignty without an indigenous combat aircraft industry, as no one supplier nation can disable your entire fighter fleet. Of course there is the logistical price to pay.
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I feel it’s more of a prestige buy for Indonesia anyway. It’s not like they are actually going to war with Australia.
 
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