PLAN Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers


AndrewS

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The 052E should carry as many VLS (or even more than) as ABs. That´s the only way to counter the us number of vls.
WZ-8 Hypersonic Recon drones with DF-17 Hypersonic Glide Vehicles could be better option, to name one.
 

Bltizo

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The 052E should carry as many VLS (or even more than) as ABs. That´s the only way to counter the us number of vls.
Seeking to directly equal the number of VLS on a ship to ship basis or even on a fleet to fleet basis is not sensible.

Ships and total armament is driven by strategic military requirements in a combined arms manner.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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tanker war, Granada, Panama, Iraq invasions 1991, 2003 etc all won by the US.
LOL, what I love the most about Americans is that, as the only superpower remaining, they will not let go of the chance to use even the most trivial little gain they had on the most unnoteworthy battlefield to boost their own ego. They really reminds me of, (pardon my coarseness), a mental illness called "little dick syndrome".

But I do love American culture, arts, thoughts. And I do respect and admire their achievements and their unparalleled contribution to humanity.
 

Tam

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???? Maybe someone can read this for me. Some kind of update is being done on a 052C. One of the Type 730 might be getting replaced by HQ-10. Two hangers? If any upgrade is done on Type 346 radar, it would be internal. The modules can be changed internally to new ones within the panel so it would be hard to tell from the outside when it is finished. If they are turning the hanger from one to two hangers, the rear rotary VLS might be deleted. There might also be less mechanicals below the HQ-10 compared to the Type 730. Is the VLS being changed in the ship?

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052C型駆逐艦1隻が改装を受けており、艦尾にある格納庫が1つ増えた。 レーダーやVLSを改装したかどうかは不明だ。
Translated from Japanese by Google
One 052C destroyer has been refurbished, and an additional hangar at the stern has been added. It is unknown whether the radar or VLS has been refurbished.


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Bltizo

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???? Maybe someone can read this for me. Some kind of update is being done on a 052C. One of the Type 730 might be getting replaced by HQ-10. Two hangers? If any upgrade is done on Type 346 radar, it would be internal. The modules can be changed internally to new ones within the panel so it would be hard to tell from the outside when it is finished. If they are turning the hanger from one to two hangers, the rear rotary VLS might be deleted. There might also be less mechanicals below the HQ-10 compared to the Type 730. Is the VLS being changed in the ship?

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052C型駆逐艦1隻が改装を受けており、艦尾にある格納庫が1つ増えた。 レーダーやVLSを改装したかどうかは不明だ。
Translated from Japanese by Google
One 052C destroyer has been refurbished, and an additional hangar at the stern has been added. It is unknown whether the radar or VLS has been refurbished.


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It doesn't say much from what I can see, basically what you described.

It definitely does look like it may be an additional hangar and the rear CIWS looks changed.

And its being refit next to a Sovremenny.


Very interesting.
 

kickars

Junior Member
It's an interesting photo. There's a heated debate on cjdby forum. Some suggested it's a Photoshoped photo. Whereas most seem to believe two hangers should never be considered for a destroyer of this size (6k+ ton) as that might increase the centre of gravity somehow, which in turn would compromise the stability.

But, one thing nobody with that thought has answered so far despite been asked a few times on that forum already is that how a hollow structure such as a hanger can cause the increase of centre of gravity when originally missiles and all the launching mechanisms were in its place.

I personally think it's another "religious" believe that tends to go around military enthusiasts. Well, one can always argue most navies don't value stability as much as PLAN does right now as not every navy is a "blue-water" navy. Then, how about the old Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate of the US Navy. It's the same size as PLAN's Type-054A (4k ton) and it has always had two hangers.
 

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