052C/052D Class Destroyers

Tam

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???? Maybe someone can read this for me. Some kind of update is being done on a 052C. One of the Type 730 might be getting replaced by HQ-10. Two hangers? If any upgrade is done on Type 346 radar, it would be internal. The modules can be changed internally to new ones within the panel so it would be hard to tell from the outside when it is finished. If they are turning the hanger from one to two hangers, the rear rotary VLS might be deleted. There might also be less mechanicals below the HQ-10 compared to the Type 730. Is the VLS being changed in the ship?

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052C型駆逐艦1隻が改装を受けており、艦尾にある格納庫が1つ増えた。 レーダーやVLSを改装したかどうかは不明だ。
Translated from Japanese by Google
One 052C destroyer has been refurbished, and an additional hangar at the stern has been added. It is unknown whether the radar or VLS has been refurbished.


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Blitzo

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???? Maybe someone can read this for me. Some kind of update is being done on a 052C. One of the Type 730 might be getting replaced by HQ-10. Two hangers? If any upgrade is done on Type 346 radar, it would be internal. The modules can be changed internally to new ones within the panel so it would be hard to tell from the outside when it is finished. If they are turning the hanger from one to two hangers, the rear rotary VLS might be deleted. There might also be less mechanicals below the HQ-10 compared to the Type 730. Is the VLS being changed in the ship?

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052C型駆逐艦1隻が改装を受けており、艦尾にある格納庫が1つ増えた。 レーダーやVLSを改装したかどうかは不明だ。
Translated from Japanese by Google
One 052C destroyer has been refurbished, and an additional hangar at the stern has been added. It is unknown whether the radar or VLS has been refurbished.


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It doesn't say much from what I can see, basically what you described.

It definitely does look like it may be an additional hangar and the rear CIWS looks changed.

And its being refit next to a Sovremenny.


Very interesting.
 

kickars

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It's an interesting photo. There's a heated debate on cjdby forum. Some suggested it's a Photoshoped photo. Whereas most seem to believe two hangers should never be considered for a destroyer of this size (6k+ ton) as that might increase the centre of gravity somehow, which in turn would compromise the stability.

But, one thing nobody with that thought has answered so far despite been asked a few times on that forum already is that how a hollow structure such as a hanger can cause the increase of centre of gravity when originally missiles and all the launching mechanisms were in its place.

I personally think it's another "religious" believe that tends to go around military enthusiasts. Well, one can always argue most navies don't value stability as much as PLAN does right now as not every navy is a "blue-water" navy. Then, how about the old Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate of the US Navy. It's the same size as PLAN's Type-054A (4k ton) and it has always had two hangers.
 

lcloo

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???? Maybe someone can read this for me. Some kind of update is being done on a 052C. One of the Type 730 might be getting replaced by HQ-10. Two hangers? If any upgrade is done on Type 346 radar, it would be internal. The modules can be changed internally to new ones within the panel so it would be hard to tell from the outside when it is finished. If they are turning the hanger from one to two hangers, the rear rotary VLS might be deleted. There might also be less mechanicals below the HQ-10 compared to the Type 730. Is the VLS being changed in the ship?

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052C型駆逐艦1隻が改装を受けており、艦尾にある格納庫が1つ増えた。 レーダーやVLSを改装したかどうかは不明だ。
Translated from Japanese by Google
One 052C destroyer has been refurbished, and an additional hangar at the stern has been added. It is unknown whether the radar or VLS has been refurbished.


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Check my post #3594 on page 360 dated 28th December 2019. Looks like this is the answer to my question on type 052C DDG 150 that I asked last month
Why would they do some major work on DDG 150 which was commissioned in 2013? It is too early to do MLU for a 6 year old ship, and this looks like a major work instead of a routine maintenance. DDG 150 is the first ship of second batch of type 052C.

DDG 170 and 171 were commissioned in 2004 and 2005 are due for MLU yet we have not seen any photo of them being worked on.

Type 056 #582 was also commissioned in 2013, and is the lead ship of the class.

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Tam

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Check my post #3594 on page 360 dated 28th December 2019. Looks like this is the answer to my question on type 052C DDG 150 that I asked last month

I guess you were referring to this picture. I wasn't sure if this was an MLU or a routine maintenance for 150 and 582. Note 150's Type 730 is missing. 137 obscures too much of 150's view on the hanger to see what's going on with the rear VLS.


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lcloo

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I guess you were referring to this picture. I wasn't sure if this was an MLU or a routine maintenance for 150 and 582. Note 150's Type 730 is missing. 137 obscures too much of 150's view on the hanger to see what's going on with the rear VLS.


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Yes, that is the photo I referred to. I guess they are using DDG 150 as an experiment to establish a protocol on upgrading the rest of type 052C to the latest type 052D improved spec as much as possible. Though I am puzzled why didn't they use DDG 170 or DDG 171.
 
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