PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)


advill

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To be honest, whatever Confucius actually said make more sense in Classical Chinese (文言文) than any English translation.
BTW, China has established Confucius Institutes in many countries of the world including those in the West. Must be something good not only for the Chinese but also for people in most countries. One don’t have to know Chinese, as other translations of Confucian philosophies are generally accepted. Broad-minded Chinese friends of mine would agree.
 

zgx09t

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One has to know the limit and appropriate use of even a good medicine ; just because penicillin can cure your horrible gonorrhea doesn't necessarily mean you can use it to cure your brain caner ,or a case of severe mental retardation, or to cure all other possible ailments you can think of.
Pretending to be smarter is a lot harder than pretending to be dumber than one actually is, the latter should naturally come easier anyway if someone is already dopey and dense. The Sage can't help anyone hide the monotonous nature of mental retardation.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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BTW, China has established Confucius Institutes in many countries of the world including those in the West. Must be something good not only for the Chinese but also for people in most countries. One don’t have to know Chinese, as other translations of Confucian philosophies are generally accepted. Broad-minded Chinese friends of mine would agree.
Nah, it's nothing but a publicity institution aimed at spreading good will. It have little to do with Confucianism or traditional Chinese culture, philosophy and history. If you really want to understand Chinese culture, history and philosophy, you'd have a much better chance going to a real post-secondary school in major countries. Outside of China, the countries with the universities that is the best academic prowess at the area of sinology is USA, Japan, France, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Canada and Australia.
 

FireyCross

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They found more andmore fresh water well under Yongshu aka fiery cross island via Nan Yang

Freshwater reservoir found at one of Beijing’s artificial islands in the South China Sea
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  • Chinese scientists discovered the body of water beneath Fiery Cross Reef and it’s thought to be expanding at a fast rate of 1 metre a year
  • They believe land reclamation has accelerated the process, and similar reservoirs may be forming at other man-made islands
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in Beijing
Published: 6:00pm, 28 Jun, 2020

A fast-expanding body of fresh water has appeared under one of Beijing’s controversial man-made islands in
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, a Chinese study has found.

The fresh water was discovered beneath Fiery Cross Reef, known as Yongshu in China, and is believed to be growing at a rate of about 1 metre (3.3 feet) per year – more than twice the speed observed on naturally formed islands.

Similar reservoirs could also be building up under other artificial islands across the region, according to researchers from the South China Sea Institute of Oceanology in Guangzhou.


They could “serve as an important water resource for local inhabitants and ecosystems”, the team led by marine geologist Xu Hehua said in a peer-reviewed paper in the Journal of Hydrology last month.

Beijing claims sovereignty over most of the resource-rich South China Sea, but there are
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, and its island-building activities over the past six years have unnerved the region and drawn criticism from the US.
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Fiery Cross Reef is part of the disputed Spratly archipelago claimed by China, Vietnam and the Philippines. Once a small coral atoll, China began building on the reef back in 2015 – turning it into an island that is 10 times the original size and now spans more than 2 sq km (0.77 sq miles).

With military facilities including missile launchers and a runway, Washington-based think tank the Centre for Strategic and International Studies calls it Beijing’s “most advanced” artificial base in the South China Sea.

It also gets a lot of rain. According to the study, annual rainfall was nearly 3,000mm (118 inches) at the reef – five times the average in mainland China.

While most of that rainwater sank underground through silt and sand, a belt of fresh water was found to be floating on top of the salt water, which is heavier and more dense.

This phenomenon, known as a “freshwater lens”, can take up to 150 years to form and stabilise on a naturally formed island, according to earlier studies.

But at Fiery Cross Reef, it appears to be moving a lot faster. Based on data from observational wells across the island, Xu and his team found the freshwater lens had appeared just two years after the land was reclaimed. This year it measured 7 metres (23 feet), and they predict it will have expanded to a depth of 15 metres (49 feet) by 2035.


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This is fantastic news, not just for the SCC bases, but for the small island states of the pacific. It could be critical for them to help combat climate change, if artificially enlarged or heightened atolls can maintain an increased fresh water lens. There is much potential for soft power and diplomatic advantage for China in being able to help them achieve this, based on her experience gained in land reclamation in the SCC.

For the bases, I think abstraction, even once stable, would be unwise. Better to rely on desalinisation, and preserve the lenses for use as a strategic reserve at the maximum possible capacity. Should the bases be attacked, then the enemy would likely knock out desalinisation as a key target to make a base un-livable... with the lens untouched and full, as long as you've got a well and a pump, you can sit tight indefinitely.
 

davidau

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Nah, it's nothing but a publicity institution aimed at spreading good will. It have little to do with Confucianism or traditional Chinese culture, philosophy and history. If you really want to understand Chinese culture, history and philosophy, you'd have a much better chance going to a real post-secondary school in major countries. Outside of China, the countries with the universities that is the best academic prowess at the area of sinology is USA, Japan, France, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Canada and Australia.

What you said is a load of codswallop. Not sure if you've been to China and observe the real Confucian Schools where they teach not only Chinese culture, history, philosophy; they stress very much its applications in real live, moral, trust, honour which are too much lacking in those countries that you mentioned.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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What you said is a load of codswallop. Not sure if you've been to China and observe the real Confucian Schools where they teach not only Chinese culture, history, philosophy; they stress very much its applications in real live, moral, trust, honour which are too much lacking in those countries that you mentioned.
What are you talking about? I am talking about the Confucius Institute (孔子学院). What on earth is a Confucian School?
The Confucius Institute is a public non-credited international education partnership (funded by the Ministry of Education of China, aka. Chinese tax payer's money) aimed at promoting Chinese language, culture, and supporting local Chinese teaching internationally. It's a non-credited institution.
Any college and university in China that has a department dedicated to Chinese language, history, philosophy, classics, and culture would be light years ahead in terms of providing real and in-depth education in the field of Chinese culture, history, philosophy and language. High ranking international university and colleges outside of China with reputable academic achievement in the field of sinology, would also be able to provide you with a real and in-depth education in Chinese language, history, philosophy, culture and classics.
 

davidau

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What are you talking about? I am talking about the Confucius Institute (孔子学院). What on earth is a Confucian School?
The Confucius Institute is a public non-credited international education partnership (funded by the Ministry of Education of China, aka. Chinese tax payer's money) aimed at promoting Chinese language, culture, and supporting local Chinese teaching internationally. It's a non-credited institution.
Any college and university in China that has a department dedicated to Chinese language, history, philosophy, classics, and culture would be light years ahead in terms of providing real and in-depth education in the field of Chinese culture, history, philosophy and language. High ranking international university and colleges outside of China with reputable academic achievement in the field of sinology, would also be able to provide you with a real and in-depth education in Chinese language, history, philosophy, culture and classics.

Get hold of yourself. Confucius Institute is an Institute that provides foreign countries a glimpse of Chinese history, culture and so on, for them to better understand China. Where you asserted that foreign countries could do a better job in your previous comment is nonsensical. Hence I pointed out to you that, the Confucius schools in China do a much better job in training students, including training of foreign students, much better.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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Get hold of yourself. Confucius Institute is an Institute that provides foreign countries a glimpse of Chinese history, culture and so on, for them to better understand China. Where you asserted that foreign countries could do a better job in your previous comment is nonsensical. Hence I pointed out to you that, the Confucius schools in China do a much better job in training students, including training of foreign students, much better.
I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are. You probably have NEVER even seen a sinology academic paper from reputable post-secondary institution outside of China. Heck, I would even say that you haven't even seen a real Chinese culture/philosophy/history academic paper from a Chinese post-secondary institution.
 

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