888 could get re-used.
PLAN Fleet supply vessels
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888 could get re-used.
franco-russe
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I think 888 is strictly for supplying the South China Sea islands (in my view, Zhong Guo Yu Zheng 88 is just a tired joke).
Pictures paint a thousand words. So, once again, in order to pictorially and spec wise further document the thread, here are those five large AOR vessels serving in the PLAN with their specs, pennant numbers, names, and a couple of pictures of each:
FUQING CLASS - 1979
Displacement: 21,750 t
Length: 168m
Beam: 22m
Draft: 9m
Crew: 146
Speed: 19 knots
Aircraft: 1 medium helo (Z-8)
Ships in Class: 2
Armament:
2 - Four dual-27mm AAA
881 HONGZEHU (North Sea)
882 POYANGHU (East Sea)
FUSU CLASS - 1996
Displacement: 37,000 t
Length: 189m
Beam: 25m
Draft: 10m
Crew: 125
Speed: 16 knots
Aircraft: 2 medium helo (Z-8)
Ships in Class: 1
Armament:
2 - 30mm remote control guns
885 QINGHAIHU (South Sea)
FUCHI CLASS - 2004
Displacement: 23,000 t
Length: 178m
Beam: 25m
Draft: 9m
Crew: 130
Speed: 19 knots
Aircraft: 2 medium helo (Z-8)
Ships in Class: 2
Armament:
4 - Type 76F dual-37mm guns
886 QIANDAOHU (East Sea)
887 WEISHANHU (South Sea)
I particularly like the pics of them doing UNREP, and particularly of 885 and 887 doing so with the new, modern PLAN vessels. The best of which is the one above with 885 with a Type 071 LPD, a Type 052C DDG, and a Type 054A FFG all at one time in that pic. Says a lot about the developing PLAN capability.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Crazy to think that PLAN has only 5 replenishment tankers 2 of which are really ocean going vessels the Type 903
The two never Type 903A will certainly be a welcome addition
The two never Type 903A will certainly be a welcome addition
hmm, they have used 881 and 885 for the Aden missions.
Like tphuang said, I think 881 and 882 have performed blue water excursions, and 885 have been to aden before I believe(?). Either way it is currently the largest AOR the PLAN have so it's definitely an ocean going vessel.
So really all 5 are ocean going, only the two 903s have been to aden the most.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Ah ok great yes I see in the pics now, 885 is doing Type 071, Type 052C and a Type 054A in pics Jeff posted
However 881, 882 is old, slow and also can not refuel a aircrafts carrier, infact I do not think that Type 903 can do it either which is a modification the Type 903A may include according to Warship magazine June issue 2012
885 again is big and slow and suffers probably from the same insufficienties 881 and 882 have, they do not handle live ammunition and can't store weapons and bombs in storage areas like a Type 903 can which is designed as a replenishmnet tanker to meet the requirements of the PLAN in this decade and onward
881 and 882 is the same as the one sold to Pakistan, called PNS Nasr which now is inadequate for the Pakistan Navy which is why now China and Pakistan are in talks to design a new replenishment tanker in the class of the Type 903/A
So if Fuqing Class is not meeting PN requirements ( which was hull 4 (1985) whereas hull 1 and 2 were delivered to PLAN earlier) I doubt it is doing it for PLAN which really leads me to think that still 881 and 882 are out of the question for PLAN long term service
Therefore in light of this information i still have to say that 811, 882, and 885 (ex-Soviet navy as such has inherit design flaws to serve PLAN requirements) are not long term ocean going vessels, thier service in Gulf of Aden was symbolic to again experience but not for a anything more
The future of PLAN replenishment is lies with Qiandaohu-class, btw Jeff nice job with the pics!
However 881, 882 is old, slow and also can not refuel a aircrafts carrier, infact I do not think that Type 903 can do it either which is a modification the Type 903A may include according to Warship magazine June issue 2012
885 again is big and slow and suffers probably from the same insufficienties 881 and 882 have, they do not handle live ammunition and can't store weapons and bombs in storage areas like a Type 903 can which is designed as a replenishmnet tanker to meet the requirements of the PLAN in this decade and onward
881 and 882 is the same as the one sold to Pakistan, called PNS Nasr which now is inadequate for the Pakistan Navy which is why now China and Pakistan are in talks to design a new replenishment tanker in the class of the Type 903/A
So if Fuqing Class is not meeting PN requirements ( which was hull 4 (1985) whereas hull 1 and 2 were delivered to PLAN earlier) I doubt it is doing it for PLAN which really leads me to think that still 881 and 882 are out of the question for PLAN long term service
Therefore in light of this information i still have to say that 811, 882, and 885 (ex-Soviet navy as such has inherit design flaws to serve PLAN requirements) are not long term ocean going vessels, thier service in Gulf of Aden was symbolic to again experience but not for a anything more
The future of PLAN replenishment is lies with Qiandaohu-class, btw Jeff nice job with the pics!
franco-russe
Senior Member
That must be the one at Guangzhou. Wonder if the Z-8 is a mock-up or a live helicopter.
Edit: Actually, not at all at Guangzhou. It is at Dinghai , i.e. the Hudong unit (in company with 052C "151"), cf. http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/type-052-luhu-class-171-5571.html
Edit: Actually, not at all at Guangzhou. It is at Dinghai , i.e. the Hudong unit (in company with 052C "151"), cf. http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/type-052-luhu-class-171-5571.html
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