PLAN container ship thread
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Is this the same ship that had the modularized VLS deployed on it? If so, I don't think this is a movie prop as I've seen people suggest. It would be civil-military fusion taken to its logical extreme.
Some VLS is still there, they left a column of them, so 12 in total I think.
MwRYum
Major
It's still the same Zhong Da 79.
Pulling a small freighter off the commercial line for this whole mockup mix-n-match thing is definitely cheaper to pull a big freighter off the line on the first go.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
It’s clear at this point that this isn’t just an early feasibility study or mock up, but rather a very deliberate and public demonstration of capabilities.
This is China showing some cards to illustrate just how much hard power it has right now at its disposal to fundamentally alter the balance of power right across the globe.
I think they would have prefer to keep this card hidden up it’s sleeve to maximise the reveal impact, but I guess something has changed China’s calculus such that it feels it is more worthwhile to show this card now.
I think the obvious reason is Japan’s idiotic probing to test the waters of it acquiring nuclear weapons.
This a fundamental red line for China, and it will be war if Japan actually tries it. I think this is China showing the Japanese that the PLA can absolutely finish enacting the modern version of Operation Downfall before they can achieve nuclear breakout.
Before, many Japanese and Americans will point to the on paper advantages the USN and JN have in terms of tonnage and VLS cell counts as self assurance that China can’t do such a thing for many years yet, so there is still a window left for Japan to weather the storm and have nukes before the PLA is ready for massed landings on the Japanese home islands. This is China telling them that that particular window has now so much as closed as it has been bricked up and had a whole other building constructed behind it.
This is China showing some cards to illustrate just how much hard power it has right now at its disposal to fundamentally alter the balance of power right across the globe.
I think they would have prefer to keep this card hidden up it’s sleeve to maximise the reveal impact, but I guess something has changed China’s calculus such that it feels it is more worthwhile to show this card now.
I think the obvious reason is Japan’s idiotic probing to test the waters of it acquiring nuclear weapons.
This a fundamental red line for China, and it will be war if Japan actually tries it. I think this is China showing the Japanese that the PLA can absolutely finish enacting the modern version of Operation Downfall before they can achieve nuclear breakout.
Before, many Japanese and Americans will point to the on paper advantages the USN and JN have in terms of tonnage and VLS cell counts as self assurance that China can’t do such a thing for many years yet, so there is still a window left for Japan to weather the storm and have nukes before the PLA is ready for massed landings on the Japanese home islands. This is China telling them that that particular window has now so much as closed as it has been bricked up and had a whole other building constructed behind it.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Appreciate the sacrifice comrade, because someone for sure crossed the line here and will be having tea soon.
many many cards. You can produce platforms like a blimp carrying hypersonic missiles. very low cost. a hypersonic missile made with cement. mass produced underwater drone equipped with torpedo to search for enemy submarines. ideas are endless.
MwRYum
Major
The optics of this is not aiming at Japan.
At this time, China got what it needs to glass Japan from Hokkaido at the north right down to Kyushu to the south and still has what required to make Americans live out Fallout 76 for real.
This is in response to US Navy doing "Pirates of the Caribbean", seizing oil tankers outbound from Venezuela.
A proper "demonstration" would be an ocean-going Panamax participate in combat operation, either demonstrating "sustained fire support" with its full deck of VLS land attack cruise missiles, or full-on "Alpha Strike" in fashion only the once-envisioned arsenal ship could pull off.
A question, any idea how many such container ships, especially larger ones that the present ship, does China have that could be converted? Is there a list or a summary somewhere of such ships by displacement or TEU, and what is the minimum size required for a modular landing platform and arresting gear systems as discussed above?