PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

asif iqbal

Banned Idiot
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

The ASW this ship will bring is massive, this is a game changer ship, USN 7th fleet will be happy to see this, a very powerful added ASW screen for thier carrier
 

kroko

Senior Member
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Today's China Military Review pronouncement about the construction at Changxing Island could be the first "semi-official," type indication that the vessel and structures we see there at Changxing Island are in fact a PLAN LHA.

If so, then the shadows were not playing games on us. Here is what I have come up with to explain what we are seeing.



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PLAN Type 75 Construction at Changxing Island Explanation

From this, it is clear to me that the PLAN is constructing its first large LHA Vessel there at Changxing Island, probably in the 35-40,000 ton range. From the photo, it may well be that what we are seeing there in the lower left, could in fact be the second such vessel under construction.

Thinking about the relation betwen the three photos (GE photo, and these two photos).

- The GE photo shows a ship bow in the inicial stages of construction.
- The big photo shows what seems to be a military ship in a fairly advanced stage of construction, including an island. However there is no sign of the bow present in the GE photo.
- The small photo presents a section of the ship. However this photo must have been earlier than the big photo, because where is the rest of the modules and the island? also there is no sign of the bow, which is strange, because in the GE photo thats the only module there.

what do you think? where is the bow in these pictures? exactly how old are these two pictures?
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

An eyewitness at Dalian Shipyard has noted that the first module for the aircraft carrier is under construction. It is said to be part of the new carrier which will be based on the Liaoning; here is a drawing from the eyewitness.

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Blackstone

Brigadier
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

An eyewitness at Dalian Shipyard has noted that the first module for the aircraft carrier is under construction. It is said to be part of the new carrier which will be based on the Liaoning; here is a drawing from the eyewitness.

KTfzTju.jpg

Ski ramp with catapult?
 

hardware

Banned Idiot
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

the ship is to small to be carrier,look like LHD.it may either resemble now retire HMS Invinsible.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

Chinese OP-ED article on the JS Izumo DDH-183.

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Japan's new warship draws fire.

By ZHAO SHENGNAN in Beijing and CAI HONG in Tokyo (China Daily), August 07, 2013

Japan's biggest warship was unveiled on Tuesday, raising grave concerns about the country's military buildup as observers said the vessel is actually an aircraft carrier, banned by Japan's pacifist constitution.

Tokyo's move coincided with Manila's latest efforts to upgrade its military, as the Philippine navy received a second former US coast guard ship. Manila received the first ship in 2011.

Analysts see the upgraded warships in Japan and the Philippines as efforts to gain an upper hand in maritime disputes with China, as well as a catalyst igniting an arms race that would escalate regional tensions.

China's Ministry of National Defense expressed concern on Tuesday about Japan's "continuous military buildup" and urged it to adhere to peaceful self-defense.

"Japan should reflect on its history, adhere to self-defense and the promise of following the path of peaceful development," the ministry's bureau for media affairs told China Daily. The ministry also called for Japan's neighbors and the international community to be "highly alert".

The Japanese military held a ceremony in the port city of Yokohama on Tuesday to show off its new 248-meter helicopter carrier 22DDH, which is expected to be a centerpiece of its naval power under the Self-Defense Forces, which are banned from aggressive action.

The Japanese-built carrier has a displacement of around 20,000 tons. It can accommodate 14 helicopters and will play a major role in disaster and rescue missions, as well as defend sea passages and Japanese territory, according to Japan's defense ministry.

But it is much larger than many countries' aircraft carriers in terms of displacement and deck length, and it can be easily and swiftly refitted to support F35-B fighters, which have strong combat capabilities, said Zhang Junshe, a senior researcher at the People's Liberation Army Naval Military Studies Research Institute.

"It is an aircraft carrier, and Japan just called it ‘a helicopter destroyer' to downplay its aggressive nature," Zhang said. Japan, defeated in World War II, is creating regional tensions by breaking the postwar order, he added.

The vessel was named Izumo, the same name as the flagship of the Japanese fleet that invaded China in the 1930s.

Although the vessel is not 100 percent an aircraft carrier at the moment, it can be a platform for Japanese forces to train under circumstances similar to that of an aircraft carrier, said Jin Canrong, an international affairs professor at Renmin University of China.

Besides, Tokyo likely intentionally chose the date of the vessel's debut — the 68th anniversary of the US dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima — to woo public support for the government's military ambitions by taking advantage of sentiments about the attack, Jin said.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has been considering developing a regular army, which would require changing the Constitution imposed on Japan by the United States and its allies after World War II. But a possible overhaul of the Constitution has stirred strong reactions among Japan's neighbors, which have long maintained that Tokyo has never come to terms with its militaristic past.

"Washington, which currently is facing defense budget cuts, needs Tokyo's assistance to guarantee the US focus on Asia. ... This also encourages Abe to beef up Japan's military," Jin added.

China has always maintained that cooperation among countries should be conducive to regional peace and stability, according to the Ministry of National Defense's response to US-Philippine military cooperation.

Manila said last week that Washington had stepped up its military assistance package in the next fiscal year to about $50 million from $30 million, the highest level since US troops returned to the Philippines in 2000.
(Editor:YaoChun、Zhang Qian)
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

Chinese OP-ED article on the JS Izumo DDH-183.

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It's a carrier alright. Anyone looking at it knows this.

But, the Chinese have a bigger, more capable one and are building more. They are apparently building large deck amphibious assault carriers too, more similar to this one.

My guess is that the Japanese will say something along the lines of, "we will stop if you will." Except in more diplomatic terms and speech.

As a Naval enthusiast...and as long as they continue to deter one another and not have to resort to war...I am excited to see the new vessels coming out.

The Type 075 LHA, the Type 052D DDGs, the new carrier the Chinese will build, the Type 071 LPDs, the Type 056 OPVs, the Type 054A FFGs, the new Chinese subs, etc., etc (CHina is building far more vessels, far faster than any of her neighbors).

Then add the 22DDH, the potential follow-on 26DDH, the Akizuki DDGs, the USS Gerald R. Ford, the USS Zumwalt, the USS America, the Virginia Class subs, the Queen Elizabeth carriers, the new Virkamaditya Carrier and the INS Vikrnat that will be launched on the 12th of August, the Canberras, the Kohlkatas, the Shivaliks, and on and on it goes, all over the world. I call it:

NESOS and we are getting an extreme case of NESOS around the world right now! LOL

BTW, NESOS stands for "Naval Enthusiast Sensory Overload Syndrome."
 

andyhugfan

Banned Idiot
Re: Aircraft Carriers II

It's a carrier alright. Anyone looking at it knows this.

But, the Chinese have a bigger, more capable one and are building more. They are apparently building large deck amphibious assault carriers too, more similar to this one.

My guess is that the Japanese will say something along the lines of, "we will stop if you will." Except in more diplomatic terms and speech.

As a Naval enthusiast...and as long as they continue to deter one another and not have to resort to war...I am excited to see the new vessels coming out.

The Type 075 LHA, the Type 052D DDGs, the new carrier the Chinese will build, the Type 071 LPDs, the Type 056 OPVs, the Type 054A FFGs, the new Chinese subs, etc., etc (CHina is building far more vessels, far faster than any of her neighbors).

Then add the 22DDH, the potential follow-on 26DDH, the Akizuki DDGs, the USS Gerald R. Ford, the USS Zumwalt, the USS America, the Virginia Class subs, the Queen Elizabeth carriers, the new Virkamaditya Carrier and the INS Vikrnat that will be launched on the 12th of August, the Canberras, the Kohlkatas, the Shivaliks, and on and on it goes, all over the world. I call it:

NISOS and we are getting an extreme case of NISOS around the world right now! LOL


BTW, NISOS stands for "Naval Enthusiast Sensory Overload Syndrome."


Yeah, very interesting times ahead!!

btw it's NESOS, Enthusiast is with an 'E' ;)
 
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