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kwaigonegin

Colonel
Except it's inaccurate. This part, in particular, is the most BS:



LOL. They came out because they were let out by the Chinese VBSS team. It had nothing to do with Indian helicopters or an alleged "all clear" signal.

Imagine you were part of the crew. Would you casually wander out of the safe room simply because a helicopter flew overhead, eyeballed the ship, and declared "all clear?" I sure as hell wouldn't; I'm not coming out until armed, trained, professional military personnel sweep and clear the ship and then announce the "all clear".

Simply hovering overhead and announcing "all clear" without deploying a VBSS team to secure the ship is irresponsible, unprofessional, and dangerous to the unarmed crew. I'm sure the Indian helicopter did not do such a thing and Indian media made that up. Their helicopter probably flew over the ship after Chinese VBSS personnel already cleared the ship, which is why they saw people wandering around.

I agree 100%.. standard SOP of crew/hostage extraction is to guided out by rescue teams and not by yelling over a loudspeaker or other methods to come running out with very rare exceptions.

That would be highly irresponsibility not to mention potentially deadly. The last thing any rescue team wants is to have a bunch of people running out on their own accord without guidance and directions even if the assumed threat is eliminated.
 

duncanidaho

Junior Member
I agree 100%.. standard SOP of crew/hostage extraction is to guided out by rescue teams and not by yelling over a loudspeaker or other methods to come running out with very rare exceptions.

That would be highly irresponsibility not to mention potentially deadly. The last thing any rescue team wants is to have a bunch of people running out on their own accord without guidance and directions even if the assumed threat is eliminated.

Also, how could the rescue team know, whether the people running on board are friend or foe, if the crew/hostage came out their secured room, before the rescue team pick them up?
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Well now the bottom line is this..the hostages were rescued. and I'm sure the hostages those hostages did not care if Eskimos rescued them. They are just relieved they are free.

No one was hurt..and all is well. No use to argue about the whole situation. None at all.
 

jacksprat

New Member
Well, since none of us were there and know what really happened and are going on various nationalistic press reporting, each with their own spin on events, this conversation is pure hyperbole, which is a fancy word for bullsh*t.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I'm going to go with the article writer spewing BS and his own nationalistic views.
I would sincerely hope the Indian Navy force did not do what the article implied specific to this particular topic of discussion.
 

jacksprat

New Member
Well it is the Indian navy, but I prefer not to make judgements based on nationalistic press reporting. However, I am a bit more skeptical on news reporting from China due to heavier governmental influence and censorship versus Indian press. The "great firewall" and strict reporting guidelines is not merely western propoganda
 

Blitzo

Lieutenant General
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Well it is the Indian navy, but I prefer not to make judgements based on nationalistic press reporting. However, I am a bit more skeptical on news reporting from China due to heavier governmental influence and censorship versus Indian press. The "great firewall" and strict reporting guidelines is not merely western propoganda

Depends on the context. Chinese state media is actually sometimes more accurate at reporting some China specific events without modification specifically due to the lack of necessity of sensationalizing certain news. You rarely see "click bait" and fabricated "fake news" out of Chinese state media, for instance.
If anything, Chinese state media reports on certain military events and developments exclusive to China are often the gold standard for determining how those Chinese military related events actually unfolded.

I would also move to argue that censorship of some media is not equal to inaccurate reporting in the rest of the uncensored media. There is a difference between trying to create propaganda by omission of certain types of news stories versus propaganda by fabrication of certain news stories.


But overall in this case, I think the jury is still out on this matter given it is essentially the Chinese Navy's relaying of events to Chinese media vs Indian Navy's relaying of events to Indian media.
Either the Indian Navy are right and they had played a constructive in the event and the Chinese Navy are being petty and trying to take all the glory for themselves, or the Chinese Navy are right and the Indian Navy are being petty and making it seem like they played some sort of meaningful role in the event when in reality they did not contribute anything meaningful at all and are trying to make themselves look good.

So I wouldn't pin this on the media per se but rather on the Navies of the two respective countries who conducted the operation and the perception of each other's role in the operation.
 

jacksprat

New Member
Blitzo
Great response, but both the Indian navy and PLA navy reports would have been filtered by higher authorities, which is why I suspect the truth is somewhere in between. But I do get your point, it is all a matter of perspective and each country will spin it in their own way for their own good and their respective audiences, which is all is very much my too my point.

Since I live in the USA I can pretty much smell b.s. when I read. But that pretty much goes with our freedom of the press, not so much with India and perhaps a bit less so in Chinese press reporting. And I mean no disrespect at all. It is just the nature of things and our respective governments.
 

ahho

Junior Member
When I saw the news, the article of most western media state that "China rescues ships from pirates, omits Indian role" I quickly went to search the Chinese articles and they all mentioned Indian cooperation. The hilarious thing is that new articles that are published today no longer mention "omit Indian role"
 
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