PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

by78

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New Year's greetings.

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Tam

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That looks like a Moskit or Sunburn missile in the center. Not sure what the other two are. Its weird they look like Standards. They might be the earlier version of the Shtil. These should be retired missiles for the Sovs, drawn from stocks that have become outdated and turned into displays.
 

Deino

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I know it does not fit exactly thsi topic, but just as an update, do we have any confirmation that th CJ-100 AShM based on the KD-20K ALCM indeed exists?
Or is it still a mystery - and eventually fake/wrong designation - like the once long used designation CJ-10?
 

Blitzo

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I know it does not fit exactly thsi topic, but just as an update, do we have any confirmation that th CJ-100 AShM based on the KD-20K ALCM indeed exists?
Or is it still a mystery - and eventually fake/wrong designation - like the once long used designation CJ-10?

I think the original "CJ-100" was actually the missile we saw at the 2019 parade -- DF-100.

My theory, is that in years prior to 2019, the rumours about CJ-100 probably had enough information to know it would be a "long range anti ship capable cruise missile" of some kind but didn't know much else.
The working designation at the time of "CJ-100" (which would end up having the PLA designation of DF-100) in turn led people to think it was related to the KD-20 (which had the unofficial name of "CJ-10" -- of course also having the ground launched designation of DF-10), and therefore believed it was a KD-20/DF-10 derived anti ship cruise missile.


In other words, my belief is:
DF-10/A: ground launched LACM in service with PLARF
KD-20: H-6K/etc launched ALCM variant of DF-10/A in service with PLAAF
CJ-10: unofficial designation of the same missile as DF-10/A and KD-20

DF-100: the large supersonic ramjet powered ground launched cruise missile (I suspect with anti ship and land attack roles both)
CJ-100: unofficial designation of DF-100, but incorrectly applied in the past to an "anti ship variant" of KD-20.
 

Deino

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I think the original "CJ-100" was actually the missile we saw at the 2019 parade -- DF-100.

My theory, is that in years prior to 2019, the rumours about CJ-100 probably had enough information to know it would be a "long range anti ship capable cruise missile" of some kind but didn't know much else.
The working designation at the time of "CJ-100" (which would end up having the PLA designation of DF-100) in turn led people to think it was related to the KD-20 (which had the unofficial name of "CJ-10" -- of course also having the ground launched designation of DF-10), and therefore believed it was a KD-20/DF-10 derived anti ship cruise missile.


In other words, my belief is:
DF-10/A: ground launched LACM in service with PLARF
KD-20: H-6K/etc launched ALCM variant of DF-10/A in service with PLAAF
CJ-10: unofficial designation of the same missile as DF-10/A and KD-20

DF-100: the large supersonic ramjet powered ground launched cruise missile (I suspect with anti ship and land attack roles both)
CJ-100: unofficial designation of DF-100, but incorrectly applied in the past to an "anti ship variant" of KD-20.


thanks and I fully agree, but is there a anti-Ship variant of the KD-20 confirmed in any way?

It's one of the YJs.


CJs are not unofficial designations. They are designations used by the manufacturer.

I know CJ is an official designation, but first is there an Anti-Ship variant of the KD-20 indeed available/operational and if yes, what YJ-designation has it?
 

The Observer

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Via Xinhui at the CDF.

This is complete picture of the YJ-83 with dual seeker.


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A long overdue correction. I scrolled back to see YJ-83 with dual seeker pic, but now that I've had another look, I'm pretty sure the shown missile is actually Taiwanese HF-2.

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Here's another HF-2 from a similar PoV. Note the shape of the IR seeker and the small dark blue and white roundel right between the front wings.

The IR seeker also have a different interface when compared with YJ-83's dual seeker guidance section as shown in this post.
 

by78

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I believe this is a YJ-18 hitting a target ship.

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Not sure what missile is in the screen grabs below, but it hit the same target ship as in the video above:
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Tam

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That should be the recently decommissioned supply ship (882?) being used as a ship target. The anti ship missiles were inert. They carry no explosive. Whatever bang you see comes from the remaining propellant from the missile.
 
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