PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

Hyperwarp

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It is identical (almost?) to the supersonic 3M-54
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Now the question is, which version is it based on? The export 3M-54TE has a length of 8.2m and are limited to 220 km. The domestic Russian version is 8.9m and has a classified max range. Speculations range from 450 km to almost 700 km.

For the YJ-18, it is likely that they used the 3M-54TE design, modified/improved the internal components to suite their requirements. YJ-18 specs are probably superior to the export 3M-54TE.

3M-54T considered a very deadly missile due to the hybrid subsonic-supersonic flight. Stealthily approach the target ship and suddenly go supersonic during terminal stage.
 

FORBIN

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It is identical (almost?) to the supersonic 3M-54
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Now the question is, which version is it based on? The export 3M-54TE has a length of 8.2m and are limited to 220 km. The domestic Russian version is 8.9m and has a classified max range. Speculations range from 450 km to almost 700 km.

For the YJ-18, it is likely that they used the 3M-54TE design, modified/improved the internal components to suite their requirements. YJ-18 specs are probably superior to the export 3M-54TE.

3M-54T considered a very deadly missile due to the hybrid subsonic-supersonic flight. Stealthily approach the target ship and suddenly go supersonic during terminal stage.

It is not sure 3M54T ? exist on some Russians sites don't appear ... again more doubtfull Russian Navy use ;)

Russian Navy use sure only :
Only new combattants classes with UKSK VLS or TL, Yasen, Kilo 636.3, Lada normaly Kilo 877/V don' t have normaly Kilo 877M modernised can use * planned for Akula 971M and Oscar II/949AM
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3M14K new LACM with a range 1500 - 2500 km for ships
3M14T same LACM but for submarines

3M-14E LACM also but less long range 300 km, 6.2 m but more big warhead than AShM

3M-54 or E, AShM supersonic*
3M-54E1 AShM subsonic*
 
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Hyperwarp

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It is not sure 3M54T ? exist on some Russians sites don't appear ... again more doubtfull Russian Navy use ;)

Russian Navy use sure only :
Only new combattants classes with UKSK VLS or TL, Yasen, Kilo 636.3, Lada normaly Kilo 877/V don' t have normaly Kilo 877M modernised can use * planned for Akula 971M and Oscar II/949AM
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3M14K new LACM with a range 1500 - 2500 km for ships
3M14T same LACM but for submarines

3M-14E LACM also but less long range 300 km, 6.2 m but more big warhead than AShM

3M-54 or E, AShM supersonic*
3M-54E1 AShM subsonic*

Admittedly, I have never seen domestic Russian 3M-54K or 3M-54T in action but then again there was never a need for them to be showcaded unlike the land-attack variants. When it comes to publicity there is big difference between domestic and export variants.
 

FORBIN

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So basically a 3M-54TE, which is interesting. This missile is 8.9m in length, meaning it would have to be hot-launched out of the 9m UVLS tubes on the 052D. Either that or the Chinese version is less then 8.9m in length.
No 3M-54E 8.2 m

The YJ-18 appears to be a Chinese copy of the 3M54E Klub
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9 m size for weapons or cell size ? i think for cell different.
 

FORBIN

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Admittedly, I have never seen domestic Russian 3M-54K or 3M-54T in action but then again there was never a need for them to be showcaded unlike the land-attack variants. When it comes to publicity there is big difference between domestic and export variants.
One here you can the size in comparison with relaoding system for torpedo clealry less longs torpedoes used do 6 - 7.8 m the enormous Type 65/76 9.1 m build for attack to very long range US CVBGs which caused the destruction of the Kursk retired since several years
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Insignius

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Well, I guess one cant expect more. This program might have been started the moment China acquired the Kalibr/Klub back when the Kilo-class SSKs were first imported with those missiles.

Hopefully, China's next step is to stealthify the YJ-18 to make it into an LRASM contender.
 

Hyperwarp

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Hopefully, China's next step is to stealthify the YJ-18 to make it into an LRASM contender.


That would be great. YJ-18 with AGM-129 like stealthy airframe would be even deadlier.

Another would be stealthy IIR guided systems like NSM. KD-88 has IIR versions but they are air-launched and no stealth shaping.

China already has stealthy target drones like SZ-250 and SZ-300 plus the WJ-500 drone. So stealthily anti-ship and land-attack cruise missiles should not be too far away.
 
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